tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post100083560630345983..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Earth to CountyJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-60002562670997222502010-04-27T06:11:33.836-10:002010-04-27T06:11:33.836-10:00"was not purchased"
uh, yes, it was in ..."was not purchased"<br /><br />uh, yes, it was in the late 1970's; you are wrong, wrong, wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-59415211294500391192010-04-23T16:19:24.498-10:002010-04-23T16:19:24.498-10:00why did the county pay money for it then?why did the county pay money for it then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-81153627625195909892010-04-23T16:05:06.895-10:002010-04-23T16:05:06.895-10:00The 1970 easement was not purchased it was given a...The 1970 easement was not purchased it was given and it is not the same trail that the county is now accepting.<br /><br />'facts people please check your facts.'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-66871982677610279512010-04-23T12:33:43.999-10:002010-04-23T12:33:43.999-10:00"They decided the trail , traditional and cus..."They decided the trail , traditional and customary access, the beach, the public, the resource, none of it mattered."<br /><br />--back in the 1970's the easement was purchased<br /><br />--county permitting is before state permitting...<br /><br />--read the ADA law - and get back to us...for that matter read 183c and 205a - <br /><br />facts people please check your facts.<br /><br />can anyone cite the HB that will raise the minor permitting threshold to $250,000. awesome!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-58748071851731351032010-04-23T08:32:23.870-10:002010-04-23T08:32:23.870-10:00If only it was that easy. At McCloskey's next ...If only it was that easy. At McCloskey's next door there was a long drawn out fight with him over where the trail should go.<br /><br />But there never was any dispute about the existence of the historic AlaloaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-754975924095730372010-04-23T07:03:24.523-10:002010-04-23T07:03:24.523-10:00Here we have dereliction of duty by both the state...Here we have dereliction of duty by both the state and the county. They decided the trail , traditional and customary access, the beach, the public, the resource, none of it mattered. Not important to the state, no public hearing necessary, and they gave them permits to fence it off for cattle instead. <br />It didn't matter to the state how many people clamored for protection of this incredible resource, no public hearing would be held, just a permit granted by "The Dept."<br /> The county had its turn, and failed to protect the resource as well, allowing them to fence off the area under the guise of a SMA minor permit, rather than one that valued the resource apropriately. <br /><br />Both agencies failed when they allowed the fencing and clearing without requiring a certified shoreline . <br /><br />The adjoining Moloaa Bay Ranch has an established Na Ala Hele Trail, part of this same Alaloa. This is the time to formally establish this section of it.<br />There was a great opportunity here to work with Waioli Corp and keep the trail open in perpetuity. Did the county work with Na Ala Hele, the Kilauea Community Association, the Kauai Landtrust, or Trust for public Lands, even their own Open Space Commission? Did they seek community imput and solutions? <br />Why such failures by the very same administration that has to have access all along wailua Beach. Why to they care about disabled people's access in Wailua, but throw the disabled folks over the cliff here at Larsens? <br />Bernard, please show some leadership here, invite community solutions. Our beaches and trails need sunshine, please don't quietly negotiate them away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-28195241342184152122010-04-23T06:42:16.293-10:002010-04-23T06:42:16.293-10:00"that is a state call on the existance of a t..."that is a state call on the existance of a trail."<br /><br />If only it was that easy. At McCloskey's next door there was a long drawn out fight with him over where the trail should go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-67131389045183162292010-04-23T06:02:31.437-10:002010-04-23T06:02:31.437-10:00"apparently will need to be hashed out direct..."apparently will need to be hashed out directly with Waioli Corp."<br /><br />nope, guess again, that is a state call on the existance of a trail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-54851140176810264372010-04-22T19:18:25.508-10:002010-04-22T19:18:25.508-10:00"who in the community the county consulted be..."who in the community the county consulted before it made such an important decision about a “public” access"<br /><br />surveyors and the landowner?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-42326874074157713792010-04-22T12:58:28.653-10:002010-04-22T12:58:28.653-10:00off topic to an extent, but check this:
http://g...off topic to an extent, but check this: <br /><br />http://gas2.org/2010/04/21/uk-drivers-plan-mass-protest-over-new-gas-taxes/<br /><br />Queen's fuel - approx $2.58/gal<br />Queen's tax - $4.42/gal<br /><br />='s $7/gal <br /><br />looks like imperialist england is leading the way on getting people off gas / fuel conservation / alt fuels etc<br /><br />$7 gas. pretty hard core<br /><br /><br />dwpsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com