tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post103886805954958476..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Believe It or NotJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-47007489977395171802015-02-22T09:23:24.323-10:002015-02-22T09:23:24.323-10:00These people would have no problem sending those w...These people would have no problem sending those who don't agree with them to "reeducation camps". I'm surprised that they are allowed to intimidate people at the Capitol even though we saw them do it at the County Council. You would think that a complaint or two would put an end to this bullying but it's even happening to legislators themselves as witnessed by Gary's behavior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-54328460244332536932015-02-21T23:52:40.735-10:002015-02-21T23:52:40.735-10:00The free reign of info has resulted in a lot of mi...The free reign of info has resulted in a lot of misinformation. It is a good thing to have all this information available to us, but it means we have to sift through a lot of bs to get real facts. Most people will be lazy and choose stuff that already fit their interests.kimohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06018136318154751125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-40881092548168949032015-02-21T15:44:48.034-10:002015-02-21T15:44:48.034-10:00Achenbach opined- "I think that there are pe...Achenbach opined- "I think that there are people who are demagogues in the media world that benefit from, you know, dividing and conquering."<br /><br />Achenbach blames individual demagogues and people get upset that Brian Williams lied about being shot at.<br /><br />The problem is not individual demagogues but mass media itself.<br /><br />In the market for eyeballs, mass media seldom misses an opportunity to misinform the public and create controversy by ginning up a climate of fear by fabricating folk devils and a moral panic amidst a crisis.<br /><br />The Disneyland measles outbreak provides the most recent example.<br /><br />Media outlets from Fox to NPR spread a rumor that the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) issued a bulletin advising parents not to take children to “measles parties” to intentionally infect their children. Supposedly, these parties are being thrown by anti-vaxers to give their children “natural immunity.”<br /><br />No such bulletin was ever issued by the CDPH and according to the respected debunking site Snopes.com here is what really happened:<br /><br />“… a California health official explained to us that before the rumor circulated, a news outlet called to inquire whether the department had received any reports about measles parties. When a representative stated no such reports had been received, the reporter asked about the agency’s position on measles parties and was (predictably) told public health officials advised against them.”<br /><br />This CPDH response to these nonexistent measles parties was morphed into a “bulletin” giving credibility to a false rumor created and spread by the media outlets themselves. Time, Salon, ABC News, LA Times, and Washington Post, to name just some, are all still actively spreading the rumor. None have retracted the story yet.<br /><br />Perhaps the broadcast outlets intentional spreading of this false rumor shows the scant regard they hold for their public interest obligations.<br /><br />Don't hold your breath for a retraction.<br /><br />Anon 11:13 has a point in that Achenbach blames democratization of the internet and demagogues when the problem is systemic in the media itself and has been a problem before Obama was elected or the internet existed for that matter.ekcollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16396807815655716254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-35899709862050819752015-02-20T23:32:58.968-10:002015-02-20T23:32:58.968-10:00Just because someone voices an opinion different t...Just because someone voices an opinion different than your own doesn't make them a "shill" for someone else. And perhaps your conspiracy radar is more finely tuned than mine because no, I didn't think that was what Acenbach was advocating. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-20180810447262834212015-02-20T23:13:38.196-10:002015-02-20T23:13:38.196-10:00Did you grasp the import of your quote from Joel A...Did you grasp the import of your quote from Joel Acenbach (WaPost)? <br />He is essentially complaining that the internet democratizes information due to the lack of gate-keepers to prevent a bubble of knowledge in opposition to scientific understanding. In other words he is a shill for Obummer's effort to "regulate" the internet.<br />Wow, Joan, that really got by you.<br /><br />Hooser the Loser will soon be in the dustbin of history. JoAnn will fail in her attempt to rule by progressive fiat. We are but small fish in a vast ocean, the tides of which will soon (rant!)<br /><br />We need to keep our eyes on the beanball that will hit us so hard in the head that fireplaces won't even be in the conversation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-91203742163321341512015-02-20T19:40:25.175-10:002015-02-20T19:40:25.175-10:00Love the part about Dustin. What a phony hypocrite...Love the part about Dustin. What a phony hypocrite. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-70360575094962873092015-02-20T12:20:45.974-10:002015-02-20T12:20:45.974-10:00Gary fits in more with his new group than the coun...Gary fits in more with his new group than the council or the leg. talk about squandering your credibility... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-73356563527918629692015-02-20T12:18:12.132-10:002015-02-20T12:18:12.132-10:00Hawaii could make so much money legalizing cannabi...Hawaii could make so much money legalizing cannabis. the tourists would LOVE it like back in the day. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-55830864921371831832015-02-20T12:17:47.292-10:002015-02-20T12:17:47.292-10:00or is gary functioning as an unsolicited solicitor...or is gary functioning as an unsolicited solicitor for the council and if so, did i miss the vote that gave him the go ahead to represent the council at the leg? Are these bills in the council's legislative package for the year?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-54107670493901008002015-02-20T12:13:09.328-10:002015-02-20T12:13:09.328-10:00Also, he is still using the County of Kauai letter...Also, he is still using the County of Kauai letter head to submit testimony and then traveling over and submitting in person. So who exactly is he representing? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-67264948688858738142015-02-20T11:38:31.241-10:002015-02-20T11:38:31.241-10:00I will request his Council travel records.
It sur...I will request his Council travel records.<br /><br />It sure looks like Gary is functioning as an unregistered lobbyist for his HAPA group. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-77961338943528511922015-02-20T11:29:50.943-10:002015-02-20T11:29:50.943-10:00So who is footing the bill for Hooser's inter-...So who is footing the bill for Hooser's inter-island travel? If he is traveling on behalf of his nonprofit, then that is appropriate--except he's lobbying! If Kauai taxpayers are paying the bill, that ain't right. This inquiring mind wants to know. Public Records Act request, Joan? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-22161570024665801462015-02-20T11:21:41.687-10:002015-02-20T11:21:41.687-10:00Putting his cig butt out in a planter? gross! No a...Putting his cig butt out in a planter? gross! No aloha aina there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-91428413436025710172015-02-20T11:17:19.160-10:002015-02-20T11:17:19.160-10:00Hypocrisy knows no bounds. Hypocrisy knows no bounds. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-67213719755801059852015-02-20T11:11:27.408-10:002015-02-20T11:11:27.408-10:00There was deplorable behavior from the anti crowd ...There was deplorable behavior from the anti crowd yesterday...Gary has been submitting testimony on Council letterhead and showing up with as his one man council crusade. <br /><br />As an interesting side note that group of people Hoosier wanted to testify early were all scheduled back to Kauai on the last flights; which Hoosier knew since they it appeared they were traveling together last night. They did manage to stop enroute to the airport for drinks at a local establishment, non organic and not gmo free. Alcohol must have calmed their tears and fears for they consumed alcohol made with food and crop agriculture products. Even their staring did not stop our small gathering.Loriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05326435159390354572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-47834090831340406152015-02-20T11:08:11.067-10:002015-02-20T11:08:11.067-10:00Wow, so spot on. How sad that Hooser's conduct...Wow, so spot on. How sad that Hooser's conduct is not surprising. This is just an embarrassment to legitimate lawmakers everywhere.<br />I especially like the last portion of your post about confirming biases on the internet. With the access to information like no generation before us we seem to be loosing critical thinking skills at an alarming rate. How ironic. How scary.Renee Kesternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-59563443768341799002015-02-20T11:07:48.273-10:002015-02-20T11:07:48.273-10:00If Gary hadn't let his ego take over he'd ...If Gary hadn't let his ego take over he'd still be in the Senate instead of ranting from the sidelines as a washed up nobodyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-14069457484468838462015-02-20T11:03:06.311-10:002015-02-20T11:03:06.311-10:00Thanks, Joan, for your continuing coverage of thes...Thanks, Joan, for your continuing coverage of these issues. I too have been disturbed by all these folks who instantly become "google scientists" because they googled their pre-conceived point of view, find someone with a point of view who agrees with theirs, and suddenly become experts with so-called scientific evidence, which usually is not scientific at all. Also, the bit about Barca smoking cigarettes and then testifying about the evils of big businesses and toxins is priceless. Keep up the good work. Maybe the citizens of Kaua'i will soon have enough of Hooser and Barca and their lot and vote them out or keep them out of office at the next election.Brian Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-58010086430001965332015-02-20T10:59:54.837-10:002015-02-20T10:59:54.837-10:00Da Hoos hits a new lowDa Hoos hits a new lowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-26902503794139705172015-02-20T10:56:43.120-10:002015-02-20T10:56:43.120-10:00Hooser should have been censured for such behavior...Hooser should have been censured for such behavior, removed from the room. Was Gary officially representing the Council? If so, by what means and with what authority? Were there other Kauai Council members, or just Gary, and if not, why not? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03168292437062518855noreply@blogger.com