tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post1786312504771081324..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Water LoggedJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11564645700690669792014-10-17T05:37:15.911-10:002014-10-17T05:37:15.911-10:00Pat, I share your respect for Kapua, as well as he...Pat, I share your respect for Kapua, as well as her sister Stacy. My post was not intended as a criticism of Kapua's outstanding work on water rights. It was a criticism of the approach taken by certain Councilmen in beginning dialogue about this important issue. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38106931087794691012014-10-16T19:42:44.344-10:002014-10-16T19:42:44.344-10:00I'm late to the "party"; behind in m...I'm late to the "party"; behind in my usual daily reading of the blog, but wanted to add that Kapua Sproat worked long and hard on water rights for Maui farmers- as an att'y for Earth Justice. She is well-versed and beyond reproach! She was schooled in water rights and farming and Hawaiian practices since birth, coming from the Akana 'ohana on her mother's side.<br />If Kapua says it's so, I believe her!<br />Pat Hunter-WilliamsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-85971801247174600192014-10-13T20:01:30.750-10:002014-10-13T20:01:30.750-10:00We've been here since 750 AD.
October 12, 201...We've been here since 750 AD.<br /><br />October 12, 2014 at 10:09 AM<br /><br />Your ancestors were late to come here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-55549095809247270402014-10-12T12:31:14.035-10:002014-10-12T12:31:14.035-10:00October 12, 2014 at 9:54 AM
Nope, re-write of bad ...October 12, 2014 at 9:54 AM<br />Nope, re-write of bad history.<br />Wallmart HAD all permits and approvals. If Wallmart pushed it. they would have been able to expand.<br />Wallmart did not want to be involved in one of JoAnn's emotional issues. <br />Kauai's people PAY MORE for food because of JoAnn. Plus now that Wallmart and other chains are moving into "organics" at a reasonable price, JoAnn has done a double whammy.<br />She is a nice little old lady. But when you look at her friends and staunch supporters, many of whom live in Ag Estates, do as Mina with illegal rentals and slew of other favoritisms, you can get an idea,<br />Shucks Ma'am, when JoAnn was Mayor and her Asst was the wife of the Kauai State Tax Director.....many of JoAnn's critics got walloped with TAX audits..Coincidence? Maybe, but unlikely.....it used to be tough in politics, and it still is.<br />It used to be a few who got the pinch, now with the Bynum tax increases and the Hooser Anti-Ag, we are all potential victims of a Council person's personal agenda....get a grip, Jay...git your Council in line, the County is bankrupt, all the old in-line politicos are disgusted and the fabric of the island is torn... Jay, you said you would support KUALII when you by passed him to put in Gary's hand maiden Chock, will you publicly stand by your statement??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-10386953555660320062014-10-12T11:57:02.865-10:002014-10-12T11:57:02.865-10:0010:59 I see your opinion is guided by your politic...10:59 I see your opinion is guided by your political agenda. Yes, it is a tough period for all merchants. Big stores like Sears and Borders also closed. To think that allowing a monopolistic store like Walmart to build a 120000 sf superstore would have been good for other stores and reduce traffic is clearly delusional. The low cost at Walmart comes at a high cost like their employees needing food stamps and 2nd and 3rd jobs. Who's the biggest leader about moving U S manufacturing jobs to China and other sweat shop nations? Walmart did not become the largest global retailer without destroying small town America first then moving on to other countries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-29418751075785741042014-10-12T10:59:51.500-10:002014-10-12T10:59:51.500-10:00@8:03 the reality of the big box store ban is that...@8:03 the reality of the big box store ban is that it hasn't protected smaller stores or made it so that people don't have to drive to Lihue. It's done the opposite. People can't afford the high prices of the smaller stores. People have to drive lihue for everythibg. Smaller stores like kojimas still go out of business. Kukuiula store has to rent its storage warehouse to crossfit just to scrape by. the Kawakamis sold out to times. Mom and pop stores can't afford to stay in business and the next generation want something more than to serve you. Typical benevolent fear based Kauai political decisions. That why we need leaders like mayor Carvalho and Mel. Even though I don't always agree with either of them I have come to respect and appreciate their brand of well considered and decisive leadership. Not this self serving quavery voiced drivel typical of tim and Gary. Or the weak middle road Joann always takes.<br /><br /> "Good intentioned" political decisions based upon placating the fearful vocal minority has and will only turn Kauai into a climate controlled museum exhibit that the rich can place on their mantle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-68347917169896375592014-10-12T10:09:06.383-10:002014-10-12T10:09:06.383-10:00At 909 actually the four story restriction was ins...At 909 actually the four story restriction was instituted by council member baptiste back in the 60s and upheld by Joann ever since. you must be one of those who thinks kausi's history started when you moved here 30 years ago. We've been here since 750 AD. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-28694689135621043492014-10-12T09:54:43.776-10:002014-10-12T09:54:43.776-10:008:03 Enough with the disinformation. The ban on a...8:03 Enough with the disinformation. The ban on all new big box stores larger than 75000 square feet was passed by the the planning commission and the council at the request of mayor Baptiste. This was approved to protect smaller stores in smaller towns from be forced out of business. This ban insures that everyone would not need to drive to the big box stores in Lihue. Kauai's small population can support only very limited number of stores.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-61100442192326544772014-10-12T09:09:59.535-10:002014-10-12T09:09:59.535-10:00October 11 at 3:38 the 4 story restriction was Ton...October 11 at 3:38 the 4 story restriction was Tony Kunimura's achievement. You must be one of those who believe the history of Kauai started when you moved here 5 years ago. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-46908639974167335682014-10-12T08:03:40.628-10:002014-10-12T08:03:40.628-10:00Joann made sure the poor people of Kauai pay more ...Joann made sure the poor people of Kauai pay more to eat each day by pushing and passing her big box bill which halted Wal-Mart's grocery expansion and cheaper food for the poor. She did this to protect her relative's food brokerage business. How can any one be so self-serving at the expense of the poor?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-29805611423704826232014-10-11T20:12:10.923-10:002014-10-11T20:12:10.923-10:00JoAnn has done more for permanent affordable housi...JoAnn has done more for permanent affordable housing and public transportation than anyone in County Goverment. Check the records. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-48374620333451280082014-10-11T19:04:07.913-10:002014-10-11T19:04:07.913-10:00Grove Farm seems to be a hot topic. Even Andy"...Grove Farm seems to be a hot topic. Even Andy" I never had a job" Parx is chiming in on the GF so-called tax schemes. <br />It must be nice to live in Section 8 housing and get free government money. Collecting money after never paying any F*cking taxes in your life.<br />Criticizing people who work, thrive, contribute and share with each other. Criticizing the very Government that puts the Granola in your bowl. The personification of honesty and integrity.<br />Gag me with your doppelganger Jerry Garcia's coke spoon. <br />Shut the f*ck up, Andy.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-34545786736645202022014-10-11T16:40:30.387-10:002014-10-11T16:40:30.387-10:00Google adam Asquith and you'll see that he ple...Google adam Asquith and you'll see that he plead no contest to burial desecration to Aunty La France kapaka's burial site and destroying pre historic native hawaiian archaeological sites. Not a hydrologist and not a hawaiian in fact not even Pono. Beat it Adam I don't need you lecturing me about my island and my culture go back Mississippi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-24317716989496136012014-10-11T16:29:38.675-10:002014-10-11T16:29:38.675-10:00Nobody is ragging on Kapua. Nobody is saying wate...Nobody is ragging on Kapua. Nobody is saying water doesn't need to be taken care.<br /><br />Adam is very nice and personable but he is always looking out for his own interests first. Don't forget he cooked up his own deal to support the Kealanani project in return for benefitting him and his partners, screw the rest of the island.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-78186588264227468382014-10-11T16:09:18.638-10:002014-10-11T16:09:18.638-10:00Ok, first off you are entirely misinformed about A...Ok, first off you are entirely misinformed about Asquith, and since you obviously are not farming out there, frankly you have no idea what you are talking about.<br /><br />He leases one hundred acres for farming. Farmers are contracted, there are no subleases and you can't live on the land. the water is non potable and there is no electricity. People out there are hardcore farmers, the real deal no wishy washy so called rich pretend farming out there that is for sure. The farmers are locals, and are good farmers. There is about 20 acres there in full taro production, while other land is still being opened up for farming from pastureland, as it was mostly in cattle. The soil is excellent. The water comes from several different directions. The ditch system is overgrown and needs to be cleared, but a few ditches are operating. The gravity flow is very good. This is real farming, and real farmers, there are no violations of anything out there, everything is done by the book, and instead of speculating, why don't you ask to come out and see it? People out there are very nice and accommodating, and Adam is very nice and personable. I cannot understand why he is being villified here. And going on about Kapua, are you kidding? Her family has been farming here for eons, she is born and raised here, a local part Hawaiian who worked and studied hard, and is now a UH Professor, and she is being ragged on? The Sproats are one of the finest, most upstanding ohana on Kaua'i. I have known her since she was in diapers. Maybe some of you are upset because this situation doesn't fit the whole "red shirt hippie" profile you have of everyone. This issue isn't about GMO's. Water affects everyone that's a farmer. It needs to be taken care of like...yesterday. It's probably the most urgent thing going on. This wasn't a Council Meeting, it was a workshop. The kind of stuff the genral public is invited to attend and comment on. There was nothing underhanded going on that I could see. I do not understand why you are all picking on locals and Hawaiians and farmers? Make me understand why you hate them so much! Sheesh! Makes me upset to see ignorant comments about good people on here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-83105424155084124962014-10-11T15:38:31.304-10:002014-10-11T15:38:31.304-10:00@11:41 yes there are water issues just like there ...@11:41 yes there are water issues just like there are pesticide and Ag issues. Are Gary and tim going about any issue to really reach a solution? Are they latching on to highly emotional issues for political reasons? Are they going about it recklessly because they don't really care about anything other than recognition and votes? I think the answers are painfully obvious.<br /><br /> Water is a huge issue! It's a brilliant political move especially when these two are fighting to stay in. Targeting grove farm is also a slick way to demonized their opponent Arryl who is whooping thier asses in votes. Can't you see how transparent this is? This is a Hail Mary for tim and Gary. They definately know how to make problems and even identify issues. They know how to scare everyone and get everyone emotional and divided. Do they know how to lead in a positive constructive way? Do they know how to take time and do things the right way? Do they really care about the solution being enforced? No! These are the questions that I've asked and the answers have made me choose to not vote for Gary or any of the fringe five. Bottom line. It's all for show and no substance. And furthermore, they are wasting thier time as council members, trying to screw over anyone in thier way, and wasting our tax dollars for these games. But yes, they do bring awareness. Now let's vote for someone sho can actually get something done in an intelligent way. <br /><br />@2:00 joanne has contributed to the housing shortage and traffic issues on Kauai in many ways. A couple examples. The 4 story high restriction has caused urban sprawl as far as possible And that's all used up. Any vacant land needs to be re zoned in order to built a house unless you can afford a five acre Ag parcel. She made a big box store restriction which is why we all rely on Lihue for everything. Imagine if you could do all your business on your own side of the island. Traffic would be much better. Save money on gas, less traffic fatalities, etc... <br /><br />Smart development and planning is "greener" than the current situation of fearfull inaction and "preservation". preservation is nice for people who are wealthy but what about the majority of us? Our leaders need to accept this reality and plan for a better more realistic future for Kauai. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-3654629866578735152014-10-11T15:00:04.007-10:002014-10-11T15:00:04.007-10:00Don't let Asquiths so called non emotional pr...Don't let Asquiths so called non emotional presentation fool you. First off Asquith I believe owns no taro patch/lo'i. It's owned by a Kapaa local resident. Though he claims it's his. The water to the lo'i actualy comes by ditch that starts from an intake diversion in the Kaneha area that is owned by DHHL. The diversion was used by McKee Sugar as an irrigation source back in the day.<br /><br />He's just as smooth as Hooser and Bynum, A non-credentialed self proclaimed expert.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-57072561558246242692014-10-11T14:00:28.858-10:002014-10-11T14:00:28.858-10:00October 10th at 4:36 if Joann is to blame for the ...October 10th at 4:36 if Joann is to blame for the housing shortage why do all of the islands have the same housing problem as Kauai? Not enough for the working class unless you want to work more than one job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-35385034467968536022014-10-11T11:41:51.081-10:002014-10-11T11:41:51.081-10:00What does HAPA stand for? What is HAPA all about?...What does HAPA stand for? What is HAPA all about? I thought it was a Hawaiian organization. Well, in my mind, Bynum and Hooser are taking a great chance by opening up this "water" thing. Politically, it really isn't in their best interest, but they are doing it anyway. On the west side of Kauai, we have a lot of concerns about the water distribution, etc. Kagawa and Rapozo came out to speak with some of the taro farmers and toured the area. I remember Kagawa talking about how low the water table in the Waimea River is---hey, way worst than plantation days----where is all the water going! Story is sometimes it's dumped in the west/north valleys and goes to waste. Someone has to look into the water management on the westside!!!! Thanks for bringing the water issue up, even if people will be upset at you, you did it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-27787979238103879122014-10-11T08:25:00.223-10:002014-10-11T08:25:00.223-10:00@3:55pm - yes, the goals may be different, but tha...@3:55pm - yes, the goals may be different, but that doesn't mean the goals of every non-profit are good and admirable. Look into the goals and motives of HAPA, and then decide if they are more or less of concern than those of Grove Farm. A conflict is a conflict. I certainly don't want a councilmember hiding under the guise of an altruistic non-profit when it's really a political organization with a very clear agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-83855276118799584152014-10-11T07:56:10.153-10:002014-10-11T07:56:10.153-10:00I prefer lap dances and plastic bags; oh, and we n...I prefer lap dances and plastic bags; oh, and we no need no stinking solar water heaters; yay!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-59493335069211136172014-10-11T06:21:31.799-10:002014-10-11T06:21:31.799-10:00Gary and Tim. Two of the more conniving and dising...Gary and Tim. Two of the more conniving and disingenuous dudes to come down our political pike in a long time. Create two special Council committees for yourselves to bash people you don’t like. Cheat- one on taxes, the other on an in house rental and “ag dwelling agreement”; Lie- well it’s all on video; ethical compromises and conflicts of interest - the most recent example is Hooser’s HAPA organization’s sponsoring of anti GMO ads on TV while he and his lackeys mount a four front attack in the Council Chambers with our money “modest amounts”, of course,on agriculture ; histrionic behavior demeaning colleagues and the public- keep Tim well supplied with papers and pencils to hurl around and Gary’s dismissive treatment of opposing testimony and butt-licking of his “witnesses”. The video record of their hearings makes good reality TV of how a noble idea like the Sunshine Law can be miserably debased. That their supporters keep defending them speaks to the supporters’ motives; that they stay on the Council speaks to our resolve to have a truly collaborative legislative body focused on OUR work. Their time has come and gone two years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-48033486452024083992014-10-11T06:18:09.854-10:002014-10-11T06:18:09.854-10:00thank you to all commenters ( or the same one comm...thank you to all commenters ( or the same one commenting multiple times) insisting we discredit this one and the other. The more I read the insistence on getting rid of our environmentalists on the council, the more I want them to win…. I can tell it's always the same yada yada jackpot, fistees, yawn. We want labels, we want limited pesticide/herbicides. We don't want that stuff seeping into our aquifers, streams, ocean. It is clear that anyone complaining about 2591 is not keeping in mind that agro-chem does not want to label or allow inspections, or scrutiny. The suspicion alone makes me distrust those against 2591.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-16395685881525973692014-10-11T05:58:09.250-10:002014-10-11T05:58:09.250-10:00The NFL is a non-profit.The NFL is a non-profit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-22870492758424248462014-10-11T04:36:44.823-10:002014-10-11T04:36:44.823-10:00"there is a difference between goals of a non..."there is a difference between goals of a non-profit and a for-profit organization."<br /><br />Not necessarily. They both have agendas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com