tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post2766874821856308706..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: On MomentumJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38315609191935663362013-10-23T17:05:38.418-10:002013-10-23T17:05:38.418-10:005:41 AM
Wake up smell the coffee...
AEI?
Amer...5:41 AM<br /><br />Wake up smell the coffee...<br /><br />AEI?<br /> <br /><br />American Enterprise Institute...<br /><br />Another word for big money corporate scholars. probably funded by the chemcos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-57823802317460962822013-10-23T14:02:18.208-10:002013-10-23T14:02:18.208-10:00Ok- I believe "you" and not my lyin'...Ok- I believe "you" and not my lyin' eyesAndy Parxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15398587036690312685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-59550346419964830392013-10-23T12:40:46.567-10:002013-10-23T12:40:46.567-10:00On the theatre side of this, I somehow find it end...On the theatre side of this, I somehow find it endearing and entertaining that Joanne's husband came to her defense by calling out his wifes " typical ... indirect and tortuous style of speech."<br /><br />I could not agree more with her husband. I believe him. Joanne has a good heart, but she has to circle the point about a hundred times before she actually makes it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-27753479792122534652013-10-23T06:02:31.500-10:002013-10-23T06:02:31.500-10:00It's the amendments that were introduced in th...It's the amendments that were introduced in the middle of the night that changed the bill from a defensible one to crap.<br />Was it too much to ask for a bill that actually accomplished what everyone is calling for? Is it fair to say they succeeded when the bill actually is meaningless words? Guess that depends who "they" are.Certainly we the people did not win. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-25025083124833880562013-10-23T05:41:14.237-10:002013-10-23T05:41:14.237-10:00
http://www.aei.org/article/energy-and-the-enviro...<br /><br />http://www.aei.org/article/energy-and-the-environment/hawaii-anti-gmo-activists-rely-on-mainland-millionaires-for-grassroots-campaign/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-52455007735698013852013-10-23T05:22:41.902-10:002013-10-23T05:22:41.902-10:00Joan, don't you know if you support the cause ...Joan, don't you know if you support the cause you must never question or criticize?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-52593416738448520892013-10-23T01:02:07.627-10:002013-10-23T01:02:07.627-10:00The pesticide dust is everywhere, my whole house p...The pesticide dust is everywhere, my whole house powder red, the air is thick with dust. My throat chokes and I can not breathe. My neighbors come over, they are feeling well, but then as we sit together, we all get sick, no can breathe, hot an cold sweats, all of us, we go to our cousins, they get sick too. Now all of our neighbors and all the kids and all the cousins are sick, coughing, sweats, hard breathing, hot flashes cold flashes. We go emergency and emergency says we are OK. But when we all sick, maybe this is collective obsessional behavior — in sociology and psychology this refers to collective delusions of threats to society that spread rapidly through rumors and fear. In medicine the term is used to describe the spontaneous manifestation of the same or similar hysterical physical symptoms by more than one person.<br />Don't whine, get a job, there has been ash,cane,dust, plenny worser sabedong, then they are using now for one hundred years steady dust and sabedong and ash,...try not to have hysteria, in the old days no one got sick, man up. No be one wimp.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-79680942317749123662013-10-22T23:30:17.004-10:002013-10-22T23:30:17.004-10:00What if some of the red shirts were actually cover...What if some of the red shirts were actually covert operatives getting paid to be obnoxious and piss people off? The fracking company did it in the Matt Damon movie. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-63751425348843689002013-10-22T20:12:45.023-10:002013-10-22T20:12:45.023-10:00I'm confused by your commentary about bill 249...I'm confused by your commentary about bill 2491 ever since its passage and the cynical tone directed at its supporters. You say you'd like to see these companies gone from Kauai so I take that to mean you support the intent of the bill. The process has been messy and filled with drama on both sides. There have been half-truths on either side of the discussion. I don't think anyone is happy with outcome but I look at it as a step in a long process of changing mindsets and political will. I welcome the support from outside Kauai to go up against these transnational chemical corporations which is indicative of the national and world wide trend to take back our food sovereignty from the industrial food system. I've been a long time reader and supporter of this bog. I'm just a little perturbed by your biting remarks and I thought the comment about Nomi derogatory,knowing the back story about Monica Alves. Watching the hearings on TV I found myself thinking some of the red shirt testimony was beginning to hurt more than help the cause so I understand some of what you're getting at but hey, I'm grateful for a victory even if its far from perfect. Truthfully I never thought we stood a chance against these corporations and to eek out a "win" is pretty remarkable in my view. The work is far from over but I think pausing and being grateful for this small step forward is warranted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-53129872109244889562013-10-22T19:59:46.911-10:002013-10-22T19:59:46.911-10:00Joan this is your blog, it is a good blog, with th...Joan this is your blog, it is a good blog, with the rainbow of commentators, you have the right to pick your colors.<br />Now that this diluted Bill has been passed by the Council and only awaits the Mayors signature, it may be time to relax and try not to focus on the effluvia this whole process has evoked. <br />JoAnn is no stranger to controversy and tho' during the Council meeting she may have appeared to be looking for spectral evidence to reaffirm her intentions, she was from the beginning, for this bill. She is a good lady and has Kauai in her heart. Somewhere in the mystery of this bill's incarnation, the Council via secret handshakes and other puzzling communications came together and turned hard whiskey into Kool-Aid. Keep drinking the Kool-aid Kauaians. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11110000491839770152013-10-22T17:42:22.105-10:002013-10-22T17:42:22.105-10:00Why do you say that it will be two years before di...Why do you say that it will be two years before disclosures occur? How did the amendments made on the last day make the bill weaker than the amendments made before?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-12769734951325236222013-10-22T16:45:29.965-10:002013-10-22T16:45:29.965-10:00What costs money at a council meeting?What costs money at a council meeting?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-51967354140536951002013-10-22T16:43:52.213-10:002013-10-22T16:43:52.213-10:00Many of your readers , including the above comment...Many of your readers , including the above commenter does not comprehend that the amendments made the bill pretty indefensible and useless. <br /><br />Real pesticide reform would have been the desirable outcome and impossible with you all screaming to pass the bill even after the backroom dealings. Please read the bill that got passed not the others cuz that's all that matters folks.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-58510313099565149502013-10-22T11:51:55.577-10:002013-10-22T11:51:55.577-10:00Just pointing out the bullshit, as I did when I re...Just pointing out the bullshit, as I did when I responded to Andrea, though at least she was brave enough to use her name.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-36054942863607835672013-10-22T11:46:05.650-10:002013-10-22T11:46:05.650-10:00PAN is not making money off our struggle; they are...PAN is not making money off our struggle; they are recovering costs. this campaign has costs; both sides of the issue are forking over plenty kala but one side has deeper pockets than the other. one side is looking out for community interest while the other is protecting it's corporate interest. not sure why you're tone is so critical and cynical because one could, from your previous posts, assume that you would prefer to have some type of legislative action that would address the environmental concerns that GMO & pesticides pose in our community. PAN has helped many communities wage campaigns against the poisons that Big AG use to exploit and damage the aina, the workers and our planet. andrea b questioned your approach and was met by a defensive response from you. what gives? are you playing the devil's advocate or just being a contrarian to the cause?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com