tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post3347831108407696424..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Resist and SubmitJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-91102633877571274462008-09-05T11:37:00.000-10:002008-09-05T11:37:00.000-10:00I'm anon 8:42am.Lifting from the Sep/Oct AARP mag ...I'm anon 8:42am.<BR/><BR/>Lifting from the Sep/Oct AARP mag (I've received it for 10 yrs now):<BR/><BR/>41% of American adults are over 50, highest percentage in US history.<BR/><BR/>80% of Congress is over 50.<BR/><BR/>Half of Americans who voted in teh 2006 elections were 50+.<BR/><BR/>People over 55 own 77% of all financial assets in the US.<BR/><BR/>50+ adults account for 45% of US consumer spending ($2.1 trillion/yr).<BR/><BR/>By 2011, the American 50+ population will surpass 100 million.<BR/><BR/>-----------<BR/><BR/>So, money and numbers = "national consciousness" for the most part.<BR/><BR/>Better put your hopes for change in consciousness on hold until, maybe 2040...but then see what the opinions of those who stand to inherit all that wealth are.<BR/><BR/>Nothing changes, really.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-35453911200503301372008-09-04T18:42:00.000-10:002008-09-04T18:42:00.000-10:00I am staying at the home of someone who watches ne...I am staying at the home of someone who watches network news constantly, so I have seen both conventions covered by CNN, Larry King, and PBS News Hour. The demonstrations outside the hall were not even mentioned. On Sept. 4, at John McCain's acceptance speech, there were brief camera shots of 3 demonstrators holding signs who somehow got into the hall. That's all. Joan, thank you for your perceptive reporting, as always, and for the many links you provide in this in-depth article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38251084624546767942008-09-04T08:42:00.000-10:002008-09-04T08:42:00.000-10:00I don't see any "shift in consciousness". Just th...I don't see any "shift in consciousness". Just the usual ebbs and flows of liberial-vs-conservative and the unending unease of the "older generation" passing the torch to the "younger generation".<BR/><BR/>What is different in these times is the number of older Americans as a percentage of total population. I believe it will top out at over 35% in the next 5 years or so, without taking time to research that.<BR/><BR/>Maybe once the baby boomer generation dies off or gets above 75 years old, then maybe some shift will occur, but I don't think so. By then the "younger generation" will have become the "older generation" and, for the most part, have bought into the system.<BR/><BR/>Different decades....same stuff...no "shift in consciousness".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-61382329822667185602008-09-04T00:03:00.000-10:002008-09-04T00:03:00.000-10:00"And without a shift in consciousness, we can’t ex..."And without a shift in consciousness, we can’t expect any of our human systems to change."<BR/> Hammer on the Head- you nailed it!<BR/>it won't be easy and it wont be pretty but the shift is happening. so watch out when the shift hits the fan!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-46031972377167568722008-09-03T20:12:00.000-10:002008-09-03T20:12:00.000-10:00joan said:"End result? More fear, more complacency...joan said:<BR/><BR/>"End result? More fear, more complacency, more incomplete or totally contrived “reportage” of events, more citizens who don’t have a clue what’s really going on because it’s never even occurred to them that they might not be getting the whole story on their nightly news."<BR/><BR/>And anyone who violates all these new Patriot Act security laws are dubbed criminals, even if they are just participating in peaceful protest. Whatever the mainstream media says, becomes unquestioned gospel truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-47045406209842329502008-09-03T12:57:00.000-10:002008-09-03T12:57:00.000-10:00These have been totally irresponsible police activ...These have been totally irresponsible police activities in Minneapolis-St. Paul. What concerns me is that police departments in other parts of the country understand the ignorance and irresponsibility of those actions in Minnesota. Particularly, Police Chiefs should instill and individual police officers should be able to discern and exercise reserved good judgement even under stress. There is no reason the 4 press members should have been physically mishandled and arrested. KPD better learn from this, 'cause we won't take the kind of shit that went on in Minnesota here on Kauai.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-86138844374632144632008-09-03T10:32:00.000-10:002008-09-03T10:32:00.000-10:00Joan wrote:"The other day, a reader asked how I pr...Joan wrote:<BR/>"The other day, a reader asked how I proposed effecting change on a consciousness level, and a good place to start is continually questioning whether we’re being brainwashed, and how."<BR/><BR/>Absolutely! And once you start getting answers is very hard to stop asking questions because the more you learn the more you want to learn and it becomes increasingly difficult to return to your former state of socialization. Perhaps that's what the phrase "You can't go home again" means.Ed Collhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04478789139917889309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-15902583921298219642008-09-03T10:22:00.000-10:002008-09-03T10:22:00.000-10:00Anon September 3, 2008 9:19 AM wrote;"Manipulation...Anon September 3, 2008 9:19 AM wrote;<BR/><BR/>"Manipulation of public opinion is the cornerstone of politics and will never change." <BR/><BR/>The first part of the sentence is true, but "will never change" is an open question as mass media fractures it becomes increasingly difficult to influence mass perceptions. <BR/><BR/>Like watching the shifting red and blue colors of a soap bubble in the sun increase in speed, frequency, and distribution just before it pops (system failure) so the stock market is becoming increasingly unstable. <BR/><BR/>Seems a lot of the people (like Anon) who considered themselves "the smart ones" and others "asses" were jumping to their deaths in the localized 1920 market crash, leading one to ask what will happen when the next crash is not a localized event but system-wide? <BR/><BR/>Skill sets (including those of manipulation) are specific to prevailing circumstances. Hopefully Anon has developed some trans-junctional skills that can survive the "pop goes the weasel" event coming soon to a neighborhood near you.Ed Collhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04478789139917889309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38801567537129000242008-09-03T09:19:00.000-10:002008-09-03T09:19:00.000-10:00I take the approach, as proven true in the stock m...I take the approach, as proven true in the stock market, that "the masses are asses" and must be lead. Most really really don't care and never will. <BR/><BR/>I have been out there in the USA and other countries and my opinion above stems from that. Manipulation of public opinion is the cornerstone of politics and will never change. The key is learning how to manipulate large or small groups to your ends.<BR/><BR/>I am not against this as I see it as a natural social process. Not to mention that the current form of manipulation is a current within which I can thrive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com