tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post3768632796408868515..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: From Maui to BangladeshJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-35665360269756203912017-01-12T08:16:31.550-10:002017-01-12T08:16:31.550-10:00Keep on telling yourself and maybe one day you'...Keep on telling yourself and maybe one day you'll actually believe it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-23330983074770758802017-01-10T09:58:28.974-10:002017-01-10T09:58:28.974-10:00Thanks, 6:38 AM, and why is this being done? And s...Thanks, 6:38 AM, and why is this being done? And sanctioned by the State DLNR?<br /><br />Because there is no other practicable way to try to prevent our watersheds from being destroyed by the invasion of invasive species.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-84497020346563677212017-01-10T06:38:57.638-10:002017-01-10T06:38:57.638-10:00For those that do not know, the most pristine part...For those that do not know, the most pristine parts of the island , from the top to the interior is controlled by a group that uses pesticides to kill off invasive plants, like the Australian tree fern, that is invasive rather than the Hawaiian tree ferns. DOne by helicopter, no public notice, these pesticides are used in the most pristine parts of the island . Go ask the conservation groups what poisons they use. Wake up, you are told to only fear agriculture.Pesticides are widely used by conservation groups. A tool for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-41799961036399278762017-01-09T21:00:57.211-10:002017-01-09T21:00:57.211-10:00We need civil, intelligent discourse. Leave the st...We need civil, intelligent discourse. Leave the stupid insults to our president elect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-74274104115423784912017-01-09T17:06:25.901-10:002017-01-09T17:06:25.901-10:00Locals having too many kids. You hear the anti-tr...Locals having too many kids. You hear the anti-transplant crowd you'd think transplants are taking over, but recent news show local population actually increases faster than any other population. <br />Gary a fashionista? OMG gross - he's so fat!<br />Guess Adelle is making that acceptable now. Quit drinking people and watch the fat melt away people.<br />We need a GMO coconut tree that grows extra tall so the buildings can be taller. <br />Also, we need a nightclub for fat people only. And a golf cart that drives to my work and sells me the beer there. And Uber.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-15594758390387063842017-01-09T11:30:35.726-10:002017-01-09T11:30:35.726-10:00That's right, because of the damage presented ...That's right, because of the damage presented by those weeds. <br /><br />Is that use of pesticides okay? But not to protect crops?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-55265886141514123962017-01-09T10:19:25.929-10:002017-01-09T10:19:25.929-10:00@10:13 Because of violations associated with the ...@10:13 Because of violations associated with the workers entering the fields too soon.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-6789574396844135252017-01-09T10:13:11.149-10:002017-01-09T10:13:11.149-10:00so why is syngenta being sued by the epa if the wo...so why is syngenta being sued by the epa if the workers didn't show any symptoms of being in contact with pesticides?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-74889884207053147852017-01-09T10:10:40.528-10:002017-01-09T10:10:40.528-10:008:33--for real? can you explain more---you mean t...8:33--for real? can you explain more---you mean the weeds and overgrowth?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-13102068491041362452017-01-09T08:33:29.531-10:002017-01-09T08:33:29.531-10:00Do any of you anti-ag folks realize that pesticide...Do any of you anti-ag folks realize that pesticides are routinely used in our "pristine" watersheds? To kill species that some people think shouldn't be there.<br /><br />Where's the outrage?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88000625306912518592017-01-09T06:46:40.170-10:002017-01-09T06:46:40.170-10:00Yes, 6:40, we have been through this so many times...Yes, 6:40, we have been through this so many times. People who claim to be against pesticides never say a word against termite treatment, pest control companies or golf courses. They even trot out their kids' hair tests to bang agriculture, even when the results show the chemicals came primarily from household uses. <br /><br />I keep waiting for Center for Food Safety, Earthjustice, HAPA and the rest to expand their efforts beyond agricultural pesticides. Or actually do something to promote the kind of farming they claim to want. <br /><br />But they don't. Which makes their motives suspect. Especially since they all have an anti-GMO agenda.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-29611378073871227432017-01-09T06:40:09.356-10:002017-01-09T06:40:09.356-10:00As Joan would say, "we have been through this...As Joan would say, "we have been through this so many times", @5:54 people that are against pesticides are against them everywhere. Your argument is juvenile, like a kid getting caught doing something wrong and instead of owning up to their mistake he/she points out that others are making the same mistake so somehow it's justifiable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-14849873338569532062017-01-09T05:54:20.409-10:002017-01-09T05:54:20.409-10:00Seems your commenters are on different pages. Here...Seems your commenters are on different pages. Here is where the confusion sets in/ the people are screaming for pesticides to end on agriculture land while they completely ignore pesticides in termiticides, golf course pesticides, those used in and around schools and urban areas. It becomes clear, pesticides are not really the problem, rather agriculture is, which explains why so many antis are realtors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-7769053945142223552017-01-08T18:21:40.257-10:002017-01-08T18:21:40.257-10:00Exactly! Exactly! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-14612635784428231032017-01-08T18:07:04.071-10:002017-01-08T18:07:04.071-10:00We have been through this so many times. But here ...We have been through this so many times. But here it is again. The workers who were kept overnight had been observed eating, drinking or smoking after they prematurely entered a field where pesticides had been applied. Doctors kept them for observation to ensure that they didn't exhibit any delayed symptoms. They didn't, and were released the next day.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-23284197144716568382017-01-08T17:59:48.210-10:002017-01-08T17:59:48.210-10:00Hospitals don't keep people over night who don...Hospitals don't keep people over night who don't exhibit symptoms. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-55985200656489794792017-01-08T17:41:22.006-10:002017-01-08T17:41:22.006-10:00@5:26 What are you talking about? The Syngenta wor...@5:26 What are you talking about? The Syngenta workers exhibited no symptoms and suffered no ill effects. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-34019669407740520612017-01-08T17:29:43.558-10:002017-01-08T17:29:43.558-10:00How is it that an island with so many uneducated p...How is it that an island with so many uneducated people that there are so many anonymous posters with such large vocabularies? Who would if thought Kauai was such a hot bed for scientists. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-28156026089646898112017-01-08T17:26:35.155-10:002017-01-08T17:26:35.155-10:00Your warning part of your long winded comment @10:...Your warning part of your long winded comment @10:16 sounds just like what happened to the workers at Syngenta too. I wonder if they checked for stink weed? Or if they would have blamed it on stink weed if the monitor wasn't on premasis that day? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11408620309342078672017-01-08T11:01:24.939-10:002017-01-08T11:01:24.939-10:00Go to Home Depot or Ace Hardware pesticide isles a...Go to Home Depot or Ace Hardware pesticide isles and take a whiff @6:46 if you can't understand that there is something not right going on there then keep pretending you are a genius. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-52140081814053206432017-01-08T10:16:43.870-10:002017-01-08T10:16:43.870-10:00Thanks 6:46 AM,for responding to the clueless pers...Thanks 6:46 AM,for responding to the clueless person at 3:24 PM who rudely called me a Chem Cookoo (I'm 2:11) after I tried to help educate about "chemicals." <br /><br />And thank you for bringing up stinkweed and one of its natural chemical components, methyl isothiocyanate (MITC), which Hooser and his science-loathing minions refuse to believe had anything to do with the WCMS incidents. The much-ignored long-term UH study on Kauai found low levels of MITC in stinkweed and in the air at the school during periods when no odor was detected and no symptoms were reported. The study was extremely significant because it offered an entirely plausible explanation for the odors and illnesses experienced at the school during periods of intense stinkweed blooms nearby. <br /><br />From the National Institute of Health:<br />Methyl isothiocyanate is a colorless liquid with a sharp odor. Lethal by inhalation of even small quantities of vapor. Does not have odor warning characteristics at low concentrations. Do not rely on the sense of smell to warn about the presence of vapors. Denser than water. May cause tearing and irritate the eyes, skin, nose and throat.<br /><br />Warning: Methyl isothiocyanate is very toxic and highly irritating to skin, mucous membranes, and eyes. Caution is advised. Signs and Symptoms of Acute Methyl Isothiocyanate Exposure: Signs and symptoms of acute exposure to methyl isothiocyanate is an irritant to eyes, skin, lungs, and the mucous membranes of the gastrointestinal tract. Respiratory symptoms include burning or irritation of the nose and throat, cough, laryngitis, chest pain, and asthmatic syndrome (chemical bronchitis with severe bronchospasm). Also, headache, vomiting, abdominal pain, insomnia, and anxiety neurosis with depression, or paranoid tendencies may be produced. Emergency Life-Support Procedures: Acute exposure to methyl isothiocyanate exposure may require decontamination and life support for the victims. Emergency personnel should wear protective clothing appropriate to the type and degree of contamination. Air-purifying or supplied-air respiratory equipment should also be worn, as necessary. Rescue vehicles should carry supplies such as plastic sheeting and disposable plastic bags to assist in preventing spread of contamination. Inhalation Exposure: 1. Move victims to fresh air. Emergency personnel should avoid self-exposure to methyl isothiocyanate. 2. Evaluate vital signs including pulse and respiratory rate and note any trauma. If no pulse is detected, provide CPR. If not breathing, provide artificial respiration. If breathing is labored, administer 100% humidified oxygen or other respiratory support. 3. Obtain authorization and/or further instructions from the local hospital for administration of an antidote or performance of other invasive procedures. 4. Transport to a health care facility. Dermal/Eye Exposure: 1. Remove victims from exposure. Emergency personnel should avoid self-exposure to methyl isothiocyanate. 2. Evaluate vital signs including pulse and respiratory rate and note any trauma. If no pulse is detected, provide CPR. If not breathing, provide artificial respiration. If breathing is labored, administer 100% humidified oxygen or other respiratory support. 3. Remove contaminated clothing as soon as possible. 4. If eye exposure has occurred, eyes must be flushed with lukewarm water for at least 15 minutes. 5. Wash exposed skin areas THOROUGHLY with soap and water. 6. Obtain authorization and/or further instructions from the local hospital for administration of an antidote or performance of other invasive procedures. 7. Transport to a health care facility.<br />https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/methyl_isothiocyanate#section=First-AidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-64702277060071601792017-01-08T06:46:02.604-10:002017-01-08T06:46:02.604-10:00January 7, 2017 at 3:24 PM, would you kindly defin...January 7, 2017 at 3:24 PM, would you kindly define what "natural chemicals that are in proper balance" are so that the rest of us can be assured that you have any idea wtf you are talking about. Botulinum is a natural compound, and so is Methyl isothiocyanate, a powerful lachrimosal compound found in "stinkweed". Care to sample them or are they not "in proper balance" which seems to be empty written flatulence as you use it? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-87630446319394954992017-01-07T17:42:19.327-10:002017-01-07T17:42:19.327-10:002:35
Our own Council, Planning and Water Depts are...2:35<br />Our own Council, Planning and Water Depts are the main cause of high housing costs.<br />They have no concept. Mike D, at Planning has added so many rules and regs that the little guy has no chance.<br />Until our Council gets some real leadership and goes to the Big Land owners and make a deal. "Hey Big Land....we will swap density and allow some R-4 and R-6 to be built and if you can let these go at 50K per raw land unit we will give you other development rights."<br />Big Land was here before the Territory, before the USA and before Statehood. Many of the owners have a long view and believe that "land will last forever". They know that will survive.<br />There are several ways the Council can instigate some housing. But....with the hostility at Planning and the opinions of the iron fisted Water Dept...the little guy is out.<br />So Kauai Citizens, until you ask or demand some action from the Council.we will stay in the doldrums of no local houses. Ask the Building Dept, they will tell you that permits on Big Estates and High end homes is way up and next to nothing at the local level.<br />Of course the locals gots to wake up and understand that 450K is the lowest that a house can be purchased UNLESS the developers get a promise from Planning that their density and permits can be ready to go in 3 months....instead of the 3 to 7 years of BS and double talk from Planning and Water.<br />There are solutions. Kauai has many builders and land guys that can do this work and have homes for the people.<br />Get the government out of the way and we can thrive. <br />JoAnn Yukimura's 1970s vision of Kauai is achieved ----no houses, no roads, no water. A trifecta for the Hoooser types, JoAnn, Mason and the new comers they cater to, who don't want no development because it will prick their new found Kauai Eden. <br />We don't need no f*ing houses....I gots mine already? Let them locals live 4 generations per household.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-10908855673894183862017-01-07T15:24:44.247-10:002017-01-07T15:24:44.247-10:00Hey Chem Cookoo @2:11, nobody is talking about nat...Hey Chem Cookoo @2:11, nobody is talking about natural chemicals that are in proper balance. The ones people are worried about are the ones created by man and surrounding us thanks to people who have found a way to mass produce it and profit from it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-81711210429137702272017-01-07T14:35:21.561-10:002017-01-07T14:35:21.561-10:00Look at Maui, what a joke all those f-in hippie ha...Look at Maui, what a joke all those f-in hippie haoles, makes me want to puke. They are so loud and arrogant with no respect for locals! F-them, including all the damn 2491 Haoles here on Kauai. Guys like Hooser and the Grim Reaper need to get their asses kicked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com