tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post4244128395528019893..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Unbelievable. LiterallyJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-85648757463652858682016-04-10T20:37:27.395-10:002016-04-10T20:37:27.395-10:00Terry Lilley is a narcissist. If you tell him he ...Terry Lilley is a narcissist. If you tell him he is wrong he will attack you and get crazy, actually crazy. Please investigate him and ask around about him. Try to find people who have had unfortunate personal experiences with him directly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-56557862653252384082016-04-06T09:15:00.516-10:002016-04-06T09:15:00.516-10:00seems like we have more and more of these wackos w...seems like we have more and more of these wackos who promote themselves as community savers, protectors and visionaries who know what's best for the rest; meanwhile scamming for grants,donations and other free money . there is a common thread. phonies, opportunists, non-profits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-91359190846599656142016-04-05T20:07:59.569-10:002016-04-05T20:07:59.569-10:00Truth. Truth. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-55881188422847763092016-04-05T19:23:00.069-10:002016-04-05T19:23:00.069-10:00But how can Terry Lilley et al make $$ on that? N...But how can Terry Lilley et al make $$ on that? No he needs a disaster that he can survive on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-49534713962265410822016-04-05T19:21:58.912-10:002016-04-05T19:21:58.912-10:00And reflecting back on ALL of Terry Lilley's s...And reflecting back on ALL of Terry Lilley's shenanigans, what has this clown actually done for Kaua'i, it's people, or environment? Please make a list of how he has actually done any good. Then compare it to who he has burned, and what frauds he has promoted. Then dare to research his California history, how he was a scam artist ripping off people in The herpetology world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-90867874142730794502016-04-05T19:17:59.640-10:002016-04-05T19:17:59.640-10:00Thank you! Bunch of idiots easily persuaded by a ...Thank you! Bunch of idiots easily persuaded by a charlatan on this island.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-80264128361744950972016-04-05T19:16:43.205-10:002016-04-05T19:16:43.205-10:00...Probably slept with him...Probably slept with himAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-81546835930837855442016-04-05T19:15:59.134-10:002016-04-05T19:15:59.134-10:00What has Terry Lilley EVER done for Kaua'i, it...What has Terry Lilley EVER done for Kaua'i, it's people, or environment? Seriously, what has actually happened? He promotes himself, begs for money, and is full of shit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-92213232366763363232016-04-05T19:13:42.571-10:002016-04-05T19:13:42.571-10:00He suffered a heart attack, he claims. He also ha...He suffered a heart attack, he claims. He also has publically claimed that he suffered heart attacks on other occasions as well, when he needs a diversion to get sympathy over criticism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-42006816538871776092016-04-05T05:49:57.543-10:002016-04-05T05:49:57.543-10:00I would like to express some sympathy for the two ...I would like to express some sympathy for the two "industry reps" on the JFFG. They were assigned an extremely difficult (ultimately losing) task that I can imagine no one else from DuPont et. al. wanted. The "office politics" involved in passing on this "hot potato" must have been intriguing and I can imagine 'cut throat'. John Kauaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709115908711629306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-14232626150449386692016-04-05T05:37:40.711-10:002016-04-05T05:37:40.711-10:00Agreed Joan, I still haven't any idea whether ...Agreed Joan, I still haven't any idea whether or not the Pesticide use on the West Side is a big deal or not. The JFFG was unable to provide a conclusion and so we continue in this never ending saga of both "sides" insisting they are right, leaving those in the middle (me) little choice but to support the report's recommendations. <br /><br />Still Ms. Styan (I know her as the lady from DuPont) provided only "glittering generalities" during the presentation that droned on and on and on without content. (If the phrase "so important" had been part of a drinking game, the audience would have passed out on the floor.) Perhaps others might say that if there was something there, it got "lost in the translation".John Kauaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709115908711629306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-53244807148746734382016-04-05T01:07:48.959-10:002016-04-05T01:07:48.959-10:0010:52-- The one constant: "No one has a clue....10:52-- The one constant: "No one has a clue." <br /><br />Given your flawed "report'" here, John, and especially your bitchy characterization of the highly intelligent and articulate Sarah Styan, that most definitely includes you. <br /><br />6:26: The claim that GE salmon will endanger wild populations is total BS. They are going to be raised inland in fully enclosed facilities and studies showed they quickly died when exposed to wild conditions. But hey, CFS makes dough from suing, so it sues, and the anti-GMO Chris D'Angelo dutifully parrots. <br /><br />Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-82996998427717727362016-04-04T22:52:16.314-10:002016-04-04T22:52:16.314-10:00FWIW:
The JFFG report was very well presented. K...FWIW: <br />The JFFG report was very well presented. KPD presence was unexpectedly "high", but who knows? The crowd was well behaved. Peter Adler did a good job as the MC. The panel was generally articulate -- unfortunately, except for the Seed company reps. One did an interpretation of Clarence Thomas (silence) while the other was a "valley girl" (Sooo Important).<br /><br />It seems that Europe has banned chlorpyrifos and the EPA is about to here in the USA. CA allows (mandates?) local county control (regulation) of pesticides. DLNR is going to do necropsies on the dead owls, but only looking for rat poison. Stink weed apparently provides good Pizza seasoning and was hardly the cause of the Waimea Middle School events. Technology is moving so fast that it is nearly impossible to adhere to the "precautionary principle". The number of acres the seed companies are actually growing crops on is insignificant. Your kid is more likely to be poisoned by the stuff under your sink. The county sprays too much glyphosate. <br /><br />The one constant: "No one has a clue." The number of people living on the West Side is not large enough that any one instance of any disease is statistically significant. There are several medical anomalies on the West Side, obesity being one, that can probably be attributed to other causes. However, the panel did -NOT- say much about the higher levels of renal failure which has been associated with glyphosate in Central America. (So my prejudice against the overuse of glyphosate is confirmed, lucky me)<br /><br />Pretty much, I think that whichever "side" you are on, you came away with your prejudices confirmed.<br /><br />The panel does agree that there needs to be more rigorous testing and that the imposition of expanded boundaries between schools and fields being sprayed should be expanded (they are 1/4 mile in San Bernardino, so the Bill 960 500ft is apparently rather "lame".) The "Good Neighbor" program is a good start, but hardly sufficient especially in light of the fact that there is no standard way of defining a given area of land.<br /><br />Nothing, nothing, nothing I've said here should be taken as anything more than my impressions given that I was exhausted and probably dreaming much of it, save for the general agreement among -all- participants that there just isn't enough data to show that there is or is not a problem on Kauai, but that other government entities have had experience that Kauai should be able to learn from.<br /><br />This problem is not going to go away because one side yells louder than the other or uses more profane language. The JFFG report can receive comments until 8 Apr. I thank them for their hard work which will continue for several more months. I support any rules that require better and more accurate reporting and data collection.<br />John Kauaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709115908711629306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-19053453129452904872016-04-04T22:33:23.314-10:002016-04-04T22:33:23.314-10:00shit not worth reading. Is this what the garden is...shit not worth reading. Is this what the garden island has degraded into? Lilley is total worthless shit!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-91737608156724159042016-04-04T21:23:04.322-10:002016-04-04T21:23:04.322-10:00cummon you know every day is april foooz day when ...cummon you know every day is april foooz day when comes to terry lilley & co. When you do investigative journalism on their scammy nonprofit? bet he pays lot taxes for all the cash dollars he been begging at blackpot past decade (thank lord,the reef would be dead by now without him. oh. wait. huh. Anyway, they need pick a reason the coral dying and stick with it no? virus? gmos? mina morita? hmm…who sheehan hate this week… not taro. no Mowry? Waipa? yeah, they kill reef. radiation. military. agent orange. we no need proof. this is kauai, very trusting. and if you dont believe you want to kill reef too! anyway garden island newspaper is the funny pages. without cartoons. stop being so hard on them. you so mean joan. no sense of humor. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-82127402043776670412016-04-04T20:39:19.437-10:002016-04-04T20:39:19.437-10:004:10PM wrote:
Good science is about proposing the...4:10PM wrote:<br /><br /><i>Good science is about proposing theories and then examining facts to see if the theories are supported or not.</i><br /><br />Exactly. And that's why the conspiracy-theory silliness of Lilley and Simonson is not only not good science, it's not science at all.<br /><br /><br />Dawsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-36980773266463694342016-04-04T19:47:23.884-10:002016-04-04T19:47:23.884-10:00Who are the fear mongers? Are you kidding? The fea...Who are the fear mongers? Are you kidding? The fear mongers is the idiot who runs over turtles in his so called research boat while recklessly chasing breaching whales for his Facebook posts and calendars, all the while blaming military shock waves. It's almost a good thing he is spending less time harassing the sea life in his motor boat because of his fearmongering teaching marine science type stuff job at the Puukumu school ( those poor, poor kids).<br /><br />I wish the IT guy at TGI would block Terry Lilley from their phones and email system..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-91125622921340807022016-04-04T18:26:35.591-10:002016-04-04T18:26:35.591-10:00How To Recipes Current Big Pic Energy Adaptation
L...How To Recipes Current Big Pic Energy Adaptation<br />Lawsuit over FDA GMO salmon<br /><br />SUBHEAD: Opponents are concerned about what will happen to wild salmon when the GMO fish reach to wild salmon.<br /><br />By Chris D'Angelo on 31 March 2016 for Huffington Post - <br />(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fda-sued-over-genetically-engineered-salmon_us_56fd75f7e4b083f5c60730bc) <br /><br />Plaintiffs argue the federal agency overstepped its authority in approving the GMO fish.<br />AquaBounty Technologies' salmon are engineered to grow twice as fast as wild species.<br />Critics worry engineered salmon could prove disastrous for wild salmon populations.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-80139050948582296432016-04-04T18:23:26.686-10:002016-04-04T18:23:26.686-10:00Didn't the University of Hawaii drop some GoPr...Didn't the University of Hawaii drop some GoPro's for a grant to study the cause?<br /><br />This was a few years ago so there has to be some kind of data.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-13802032960023611632016-04-04T17:51:46.412-10:002016-04-04T17:51:46.412-10:00Just go TO PBS watch their program on the dying co...Just go TO PBS watch their program on the dying coral and shell fish. They present the cause as the rising PH levels of all the oceans because the ocean is a sponge that absorbs CO2.<br />So if Ph and CO2 are not in the discussion it just a BS debate.<br /><br />Reduce CO2 levels and the problem is solved.<br /><br />Good luck with that you all.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-79628537911915002662016-04-04T16:10:34.548-10:002016-04-04T16:10:34.548-10:00Kauaʻiʻs reefs are dying at an alarming rate. Yet ...Kauaʻiʻs reefs are dying at an alarming rate. Yet when people who are concerned about this express their opinions not as facts, but as theories, they are called "foolish" and "fear-mongerers". Good science is about proposing theories and then examining facts to see if the theories are supported or not. That is what the collaboration between the military and the public in this article is all about. There is absolutely nothing foolish about asking scientific questions related to reef health. Foolishness comes when one already knows facts but refuses to accept them. But since it appears that needed facts based upon research are missing, how can the search for these facts be called "foolishness" and "fear-mongering"? Is it better to remain silent and ask no questions at all. Or to rely on the opinions of laypersons who have no scientific training in what is being discussed? Who are the real fools and fear-mongerers here? I myself will wait until more scientific research is done before forming an opinion about the issues in this article. That is the wisest approach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-1936365726856730392016-04-04T14:56:02.490-10:002016-04-04T14:56:02.490-10:00Great barrier reef coral bleaching is worst in its...Great barrier reef coral bleaching is worst in its history. <br /><br />Type these words in on Google and read more about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-22864448055144693622016-04-04T14:55:57.737-10:002016-04-04T14:55:57.737-10:0010:19 and 1:50 -- There's a sucker born every ...10:19 and 1:50 -- There's a sucker born every minute.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-22737029306696510162016-04-04T13:59:32.827-10:002016-04-04T13:59:32.827-10:00Maybe the Gaga Island. But it would certainly help...Maybe the Gaga Island. But it would certainly help if Dennis Francis hired a real environmental reporter as opposed to some flack for every bunkum crackpot theory these folks from away can conjure up. Loved the bogus graphics, though. I can hardly wait to see the coverage of tonight's explanation for recommendations for monitoring all kinds of alleged harms the Joint Fact Finding Group was unable to document. Nothing like crying wolf to grab headlines in flacidly run press organs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-10960430627467324172016-04-04T13:50:34.505-10:002016-04-04T13:50:34.505-10:00People work together to create a better world....a...People work together to create a better world....and then the haters come out who love to turn anything positive into negative through insinuations and hateful personal attacks. I also say "mahalo nui loa" to the Garden Island for the positive and inspiring news article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com