tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post4890481612149556026..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Scorched AlohaJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-12641139906125227852016-08-11T21:36:00.851-10:002016-08-11T21:36:00.851-10:00Best to start researching gmo mosquitoes now. Some...Best to start researching gmo mosquitoes now. Some want them in Hawaiʻi. Soon.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-54170069269020137272016-08-11T21:21:01.305-10:002016-08-11T21:21:01.305-10:00This question reminds me of GW Bush's ban on e...<br />This question reminds me of GW Bush's ban on embryonic stem cells. (Those "right-to-lifers" baffle me. Love Georges Carlin's take on it, "You know why life is sacred? Because we're alive! We made it up!")<br /><br />Chimeras don't seem to be as "Sci-Fi" as they used to be. I am not sure the term "cloning" is technically correct, which is kind of not important here in this discussion. "The Island of Doctor Moreau" does come to mind when the discussion is brought up, but if one can grow a human kidney inside a pig that is genetically identical to the human, is that a "good thing" or a "bad thing". Much like wondering if eating pork is "moral". (I like bacon -- a lot)<br /><br />3 Human Chimeras That Already Exist<br />https://www.yahoo.com/news/3-human-chimeras-already-exist-143320171.html?ref=gs<br /><br />Strange Beasts: Why Human-Animal Chimeras Might Be Coming<br />https://www.yahoo.com/news/strange-beasts-why-human-animal-chimeras-might-coming-142628195.html?ref=gs<br /><br />"Perhaps the most widely discussed implication of the research is its potential to create animals that contain human organs, which could then be transplanted into patients."John Kauaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709115908711629306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-31900059101790195072016-08-11T18:27:17.830-10:002016-08-11T18:27:17.830-10:00I'd want to review the plan for any proposed r...I'd want to review the plan for any proposed release before I supported or opposed. I don't know of any work being done to clone humans with other animals.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-71839095753207845602016-08-11T17:04:45.481-10:002016-08-11T17:04:45.481-10:00Joan, Do you support the introduction of GMO mosqu...Joan, Do you support the introduction of GMO mosquitoes into Hawaiʻi? How about cloning humans with other animals? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-59020935683069847222016-08-11T09:09:33.451-10:002016-08-11T09:09:33.451-10:00Writing for a living, like farming are both noble ...Writing for a living, like farming are both noble professions and the seeds you cast are the ones you hope will provide a good return.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-52823799904814103222016-08-11T08:57:14.894-10:002016-08-11T08:57:14.894-10:00@8:50
Your comment seems to be a projection of yo...@8:50<br /><br />Your comment seems to be a projection of your own belief system, in which you do nothing unless you're paid. <br /><br />I, on the other hand, have always written about what interests me, what's timely and what needs to be shared. Money has never been my motivator. Furthermore, I'm not prostelyzing for the chem-seed crops. I'm trying to share accurate information about all biotech applications, of which seed companies are but a part.<br /><br />Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-4860119852315426422016-08-11T08:50:18.838-10:002016-08-11T08:50:18.838-10:00True, you're not required to reveal anything, ...True, you're not required to reveal anything, though the pro chem-seed corps prostheltizing hints at source of donationsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-64207362958207378702016-08-11T08:48:44.775-10:002016-08-11T08:48:44.775-10:00You guessed wrong, 7:52. People don't state th...You guessed wrong, 7:52. People don't state their political preferences or make any requests for coverage or angle when they give donations. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-84817349446323501472016-08-11T08:28:23.582-10:002016-08-11T08:28:23.582-10:00Hey Joan, at least Bob Cariffe was honest, if not ...Hey Joan, at least Bob Cariffe was honest, if not a little dysfunctional. He thought he could win based on him picking up trash and walking to Kapaa from Lihue almost daily. He thought that that alone was going to show the public the struggles he went through as a unlicensed part time building painter, that his efforts were for the people of Kauai. He did make some spare change recycling as well. It was a throwback to the time JoAnn first ran for council. She picked up trash with her supporters and pasted her bumper stickers on the bags (can't do that now, the sticker part). There were a lot of bags on the highway. Us and some of my friends couldn't believe that there was that much trash to be picked up so one day we stopped and opened up one of the bags! Guess what we found? Trash! What a burn. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-53035952777081684232016-08-11T07:52:24.367-10:002016-08-11T07:52:24.367-10:00Am guessing Joan that those whi want to see da Hoo...Am guessing Joan that those whi want to see da Hoos be taken down are contributing money to support your blog. Is this fair to say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-9067822061784775952016-08-11T07:22:10.841-10:002016-08-11T07:22:10.841-10:00Non profit organizations must report their financi...Non profit organizations must report their financials, but citizens are not, everyone is free to gift whomever them want to in life, but if you are a non profit that becomes public info. In this case CB is a non profit and must disclose, Joan here is one brilliant writer with people who support just that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-28931959395033393072016-08-11T07:16:59.667-10:002016-08-11T07:16:59.667-10:00Nor will you, because it's none of your busine...Nor will you, because it's none of your business. Do you really believe I, as a private citizen, should share personal financial information with the general public, or someone who doesn't even reveal his/her own name? <br /><br />But I will tell you that donations have come from people who run the political gamut, including some who do not often agree with me, but value what I contribute to the community discourse. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-63310037297586170932016-08-11T06:47:00.285-10:002016-08-11T06:47:00.285-10:00Joan, re: Aug. 10 10:32 response to commenter
&quo...Joan, re: Aug. 10 10:32 response to commenter<br />"As I've noted numerous times on this blog, I work for the Alliance for Science doing very specific assignments. When it comes to my blog and any comments I make anywhere, it's all me and I'm not paid to do any of it."<br /><br />I think what readers are referring to is the sizeable 'donations' to ..... 'write what you want'<br /><br />We've yet to see any disclosure on that.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-43139223603849757522016-08-10T21:28:35.533-10:002016-08-10T21:28:35.533-10:00Brett has a fairly undistinguished career as a jou...Brett has a fairly undistinguished career as a journalist, it seems. He's probably one of those academics who's never seen the inside of a newsroom or had a deadline. A Google search on his name came up with very little except academic stuff. Couldn't find any longform or investigative pieces with his byline. Despite all its chest-thumping about its journalistic vigor, CB does not pass muster as a credible news-breaking organization. It's like so many other websites and merely repackages stories, and relying more on its army of "citizen journalists" to provide content in the comments sections. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-90185264421317275712016-08-10T20:07:17.944-10:002016-08-10T20:07:17.944-10:00But aren't you right in Italian?But aren't you right in Italian?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-4398770112477714972016-08-10T18:42:42.277-10:002016-08-10T18:42:42.277-10:00This blog is powerful and it got the rid of the fo...This blog is powerful and it got the rid of the former Shayme PA and is now exposing her minions trying for a KPD power grab of the PA's office. I didn't like Justin when he was manipulated by KPD like Jake Delaplane was manipulated by the good ol boys and gals but he learned (both learned) that the puppet masters are evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-54731088199592141372016-08-10T16:55:49.165-10:002016-08-10T16:55:49.165-10:00Looks like CB guy shot himself in foot... Saw your...Looks like CB guy shot himself in foot... Saw your blog, looked up article.. None of comments support CB idiot. You must have gotten under their skin for him to go after you like that.. Sorry he is a teacher. His writing sucks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-68602685971230734982016-08-10T16:45:51.597-10:002016-08-10T16:45:51.597-10:00Dear 3:13,
Thank you for the correction, your com...Dear 3:13,<br /><br />Thank you for the correction, your comment, and for teaching me a great new word: coruscating.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-36041746851928158402016-08-10T16:31:11.759-10:002016-08-10T16:31:11.759-10:00Man oh Man does Brett Oppegaard piss me off.
Th...Man oh Man does Brett Oppegaard piss me off. <br /><br />This "my way or the highway" political discourse is just STUPID.<br />That he refuses to acknowledge reasoned responses to his op-ed and doubles down like Trump does...<br /><br />The point is to figure out how to talk to each other, not to figure out how to vanquish your foe.<br /><br />Maybe I do need to get an AR-15?John Kauaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709115908711629306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-7933331792773016572016-08-10T16:11:45.968-10:002016-08-10T16:11:45.968-10:00OMG!
WRT the CB article on "disclosure&quo...OMG! <br /><br />WRT the CB article on "disclosure" in case you didn't see it, here is Jan TenBruggencate's response. Clearly articulated and "right on". (I reserve the right to not agree with Jan on his other endeavors. Although, I fully support the actions that KIUC has been taking.)<br /><br />'Hi Brett, These are complex issues. Passing over the issue of undisclosed financial conflicts by any publication’s owner and its paid staff, there is also the issue of non-financial bias. If a writer is a close friend and confidant of a news source, as many in the news business are, is there any mechanism to declare that conflict, and is it any less of a conflict? Another issue that I don’t think has been adequately vetted: How do you justify a demand of full disclosure from commenters who use their real names, when the publication allows commenters anonymity through pseudonyms. Once commenters identify themselves, anybody can research their conflicts. But anomymous commenters can assert, as one does in this article’s comment stream, that “writers should take ownership of what they write,” while not themselves taking ownership. In this case, you call out Joan Conrow, who uses her real name and whose biases are manifest, while giving a pass to those unwilling to use their names.'John Kauaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709115908711629306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-76930949479434301032016-08-10T15:42:47.791-10:002016-08-10T15:42:47.791-10:009:49 with respect to the selection of pronouns, th...9:49 with respect to the selection of pronouns, there was a story on NPR (or was it Democracy Now?) just this morning about using "gender neutral" words. I totally agree that using "themselves" sounds ridiculous to my ancient High School English education, but I understand the reasoning behind the choice of what would normally have been a plural word.<br /><br />I guess it is actually the LBGTQ community that is pushing hardest for this change. Whatever. I'm not taking sides, just passing on what I heard.<br /><br />WRT Civil Beat and Omidyr, when in the world was journalism anything but "Yellow"? Look at the comments here. "Bias" is immediately obvious for most of them. (In case it isn't clear, I found the CB article to be tedious.)<br /><br />OTOH, there are comments that include information contrary to the "majority" opinion that aren't necessarily taking sides but rather suggesting the need for better and more information. (Yes, it should be obvious that I think I'm one of those guys. Again, whatever. Not claiming to be right, but not willing to concede I'm wrong.)<br /><br />I agree that Dr. Oz and Vandana Shiva are probably shills (although there's always room for doubt), but Don Huber and Bob Streit are (IMO) stand-up guys who have seen a problem and are doing their best to issue a clarion call to bring attention to the problem. That they may sometimes sound like Oz and Shiva is unfortunate. This GMO/pesticide/nutrition stuff isn't a black and white issue. <br /><br />Remember when there was no such thing as "Climate Change"? The last nail has been placed in that coffin. What to do about it though...<br /><br />I'm just glad that I don't own property in Kapaa or Waikiki. That "happiness" is tempered by the fact that when HNL is underwater, it is going to be difficult to get fresh veggies. (Yes, 30-50 years from now, more or less. Again, whatever. I could live that long. But then I'm concerned about everyone else who will be here after I'm gone -- really.)<br /><br />Not that anyone cares, but have you ever been to Kiribati? (Christmas Island) That nation is disappearing now.<br /><br />http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-to-lead-a-nation-that-will-be-swallowed-by-the-seaJohn Kauaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709115908711629306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-35662916806949553572016-08-10T15:13:46.785-10:002016-08-10T15:13:46.785-10:00Querida Joan:
The word for balls in Spanish is co...Querida Joan:<br /><br />The word for balls in Spanish is cojones--NOT cajones. Cajones means big boxes: "una caja" is a box. <br /><br />Because copy editing, proofreading and lucid commentary (judging from the addled syntax and even murkier reasoning of Brett) are woefully lacking in contemporary journalism, I am happy to oblige with a rare corrective to your corruscating copy. <br /><br />Journalism is the first draft of history, and I'm glad your reporting will allow us to look back on how we got to a post-Fistee agrarian paradise, where we're all sitting around a campfire, gnawing on nuts and berries and wondering how it all came to pass.<br /><br />Keep it up! And take Civil Beat to task. I worked for august newspapers back in the day when publishers were generous and philanthropic, but erected a firewall between their philanthropy and newsrooms. I'm betting Pierre doesn't venture into what passes as a newsroom at Civil Beat much. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-3062507560787663532016-08-10T15:12:06.010-10:002016-08-10T15:12:06.010-10:00Gary looks scarily like Mel with that mustache!Gary looks scarily like Mel with that mustache!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-16472914831135960042016-08-10T14:22:10.989-10:002016-08-10T14:22:10.989-10:00Joan- How dare you single my comments out as "...Joan- How dare you single my comments out as "cuckoo". <br />This is a great blog. Not only does it give real "news", it gives a great commentary and many times a humorous view on life on Kauai. <br />The island is divided. Not only Red and Blue on Ag stuff but by the real divider, economics. The rich Haoles, represented by Hooser, JoAnn and Mason are the anti-Ag folks. These new-comers have started to be a real force in politics. Imagine- Dustin Barca almost beat Mayor Carvalho in the NS. A semi-literate, violent confused person who hasn't done a day of community service in his life gets thousands of votes. Go figure.<br />So the NS ideals of back-to-the-land natural lifestyle is what JoAnn, Gary and Mason want. But little do these three seem to realize is "there is a whole lotta money" in that idyllic NS new-age lifestyle. Millions of dollahs for these Ag estates. And even as we speak..........most of the building permits on Kauai are for Ag condo estates on the NS. Local Housing Zero.....multi-Million Ag Estates over 200 million.<br />So as I grimace and am so sick of JoAnn and Gary...the NS crowd may get them elected. JoAnn has plenny old Japanese voters, but many of those now think she is really a banana.<br />Why we can't remember her complete failure during Iniki is a mystery. And her eye rolling gesticulating as she blabby-di-blabs is gut wrenching.<br />But if this Kauai Eclectic Blog could do one thing, only one..........if this blog assisted in the ouster of Da Hoos....then KE is a blessing.<br />Just think of the pandemonium of the anti-Ag Bill, the dollar expense and the continuous social expense. Them thar westside locals are pissed. And thanks to Gary, this pissed-off attitude includes pertneer every Haole on the island. <br />T'will be interesting. And that ol' chimney in Wailua is still smoking, Ag is still growing and hopefully soon Da Hoos will be working full-time as a CFS lobbyist. Can't wait. <br />If he gets rewarded by his recent obsequious begging we are lost. Begging for votes? Great Gawd Almighty-<br />“Begging is much more difficult than it looks. Contrary to popular belief, it’s a high art form that takes years of dedicated practice to master.” Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-5116331630248078462016-08-10T13:44:49.631-10:002016-08-10T13:44:49.631-10:00Chiba take the 10-7 bet on Hooser or Chiba and Kaw...Chiba take the 10-7 bet on Hooser or Chiba and Kawakami supporters take the bet. I'll bet a plate lunch that Hooser gets in. Who like action. No need go chicken fight get plenty gamblers on this blog and get the house/runner too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com