tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post5012547591451419431..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: What Were They Thinking?Joan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-65736534393992271702016-02-10T09:44:42.063-10:002016-02-10T09:44:42.063-10:00what bullshit to say you are using your dogs for s...what bullshit to say you are using your dogs for security. In this day and age we have enough security technology. Why dont you install cameras instead of abusing your dogs? that's exactly what it is... animal abuse! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-74912525963748674482016-01-22T04:51:36.949-10:002016-01-22T04:51:36.949-10:00Problem with the theory that electronic emissions ...Problem with the theory that electronic emissions from PMRF are affecting coral/sea life is that there appears to be no correlation. I'm in the water all over the island, surfing, snorkeling, and spear fishing and the areas around PMRF are relatively healthy. I honestly don't know what is causing the damage, but I suspect its a combination of things - polluted run off as well as possibly sun tan lotion coupled with areas that get much less circulation - bays like inside Hanalei, Hanamaulu, PKs, Pakala, etc. You don't have to believe me though, get an MWR pass to go on the base yourself and get in the water. Compare that with other places. This Terry Lilley guy comes off as a bit of a huckster, trying to sell crisis for his own personal gain imo.<br /><br />Now if certain people/groups just have a beef with PMRF and want it gone, they should expose the amounts of fraud the place engages in - defrauding other government agencies and ultimately our tax dollars with hundreds of very well paid do nothing jobs. It makes the county numbers look small time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-79248757183814710642016-01-21T23:51:43.785-10:002016-01-21T23:51:43.785-10:003:33 good luck convincing a judge with that argume...3:33 good luck convincing a judge with that argument.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-85566405460877956372016-01-21T15:33:55.683-10:002016-01-21T15:33:55.683-10:00The person's conduct is letting the dog bark.The person's conduct is letting the dog bark. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-56302246125265635802016-01-21T09:06:35.859-10:002016-01-21T09:06:35.859-10:00Ah, but the definition of unreasonable noise refer...Ah, but the definition of unreasonable noise refers to a "person's conduct", not a dog's conduct. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-66805370280238270302016-01-20T22:22:05.568-10:002016-01-20T22:22:05.568-10:00@7:50. 'Ae! From one kanaka maoli
E hana me ka...@7:50. 'Ae! From one kanaka maoli<br />E hana me ka ha`aha`a Let us work (together) with humbleness. Me getting no moi moi <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-76447446196585123772016-01-20T19:50:17.504-10:002016-01-20T19:50:17.504-10:00@1:55 pm and 2:54pm wrong
There are more locals ...@1:55 pm and 2:54pm wrong <br /><br />There are more locals than transplants hand s down, but there are less vocal locals than transplants. BUT , the locals also want peaceful nights and dog barking control.<br /><br />Aloha Bradah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-77932936420726574502016-01-20T15:50:55.929-10:002016-01-20T15:50:55.929-10:00"The renter, resident, or owner-occupant of t..."The renter, resident, or owner-occupant of the premises who knowingly or negligently consents to unreasonable noise on the premises shall be guilty of a noise violation."<br /><br />Then if ya look at the definition of "unreasonable noise" it could apply to a person's negligent failure to stop their precious Fido from barking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-87870354264039769212016-01-20T14:54:41.229-10:002016-01-20T14:54:41.229-10:001:55 we are talking about barking dog complainers,...1:55 we are talking about barking dog complainers, Mostly "haole transplants" sorry but true. What are you talking about, GMO's?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-37272836000442460952016-01-20T13:55:11.835-10:002016-01-20T13:55:11.835-10:00The local elitist are even worse because they let ...The local elitist are even worse because they let this happen and continue to panhandle for handouts and votes, and on Kauai there's more transplants than locals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-64490332286190266142016-01-20T10:47:53.513-10:002016-01-20T10:47:53.513-10:0012:59 it's a "growing problem" becau...12:59 it's a "growing problem" because of the growth of transplants on this island who "only complain" about everything. It's really an "elitist" mentality that is ruining our paradise. We used to live in harmony. Now we live with anger towards these newcomers who refuse to accept us locals as equal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38901372422256512682016-01-19T20:18:27.822-10:002016-01-19T20:18:27.822-10:00Ahh, if it were only so easy. The disorderly condu...Ahh, if it were only so easy. The disorderly conduct seems to apply to people, not dogs. I know, man's best friend and all, but seriously:<br /><br /> §711-1101 Disorderly conduct. (1) A person commits the offense of disorderly conduct if, with intent to cause physical inconvenience or alarm by a member or members of the public, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, the person:<br /> (a) Engages in fighting or threatening, or in violent or tumultuous behavior;<br /> (b) Makes unreasonable noise;<br /> (c) Subjects another person to offensively coarse behavior or abusive language which is likely to provoke a violent response;<br /> (d) Creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act which is not performed under any authorized license or permit; or<br /> (e) Impedes or obstructs, for the purpose of begging or soliciting alms, any person in any public place or in any place open to the public.<br /> (2) Noise is unreasonable, within the meaning of subsection (1)(b), if considering the nature and purpose of the person's conduct and the circumstances known to the person, including the nature of the location and the time of the day or night, the person's conduct involves a gross deviation from the standard of conduct that a law-abiding citizen would follow in the same situation; or the failure to heed the admonition of a police officer that the noise is unreasonable and should be stopped or reduced.<br /> The renter, resident, or owner-occupant of the premises who knowingly or negligently consents to unreasonable noise on the premises shall be guilty of a noise violation.<br /> (3) Disorderly conduct is a petty misdemeanor if it is the defendant's intention to cause substantial harm or serious inconvenience, or if the defendant persists in disorderly conduct after reasonable warning or request to desist. Otherwise disorderly conduct is a violation. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-72332685292089406132016-01-19T15:44:50.756-10:002016-01-19T15:44:50.756-10:00The really asinine part of the council barking dog...The really asinine part of the council barking dog drama is that the disorderly conduct law already gives the cops a perfectly good way to cite neighbors who let their little bundles of furry joy make noise at all hours. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-83069092746468088292016-01-19T14:27:00.043-10:002016-01-19T14:27:00.043-10:0012:59pm We've had no barking dog law for 100 ...12:59pm We've had no barking dog law for 100 plus years until 2014, Joan is right, it ain't gonna be easy and all the complainers are not in your same situation. Barking dog laws ain't easy to enforce and convict, period. So don't seem so high and mighty to think you're some kinda expert on this issue. No other island has success with this law, why? This is not a law enforcement and State Court priority! Figure it out, less dogs barking = more crime! So your neighbor loses his security because you cannot tolerate his dog barking occasionally. Don't expect much help. You will be complaining about the same thing until you Ma-Ke. Just watch. This law will not fix your problem long-term, maybe temporary, then Hana Hou.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-72784170326615125572016-01-19T12:59:42.628-10:002016-01-19T12:59:42.628-10:00Joan, re: your take on the dog barking issue &...Joan, re: your take on the dog barking issue & the newly approved law: this isn't about people with little tolerance & little ability to work things out amongst themselves (as your 'friend' stated). <br />Believe me, this is a growing problem due to the rapid growth of the island's population (quickly becoming more urbanized), the absence of any dog barking laws & the enforcement of such (which I believe would keep a lot more people accountable for their problem dogs), combined with the lax attitude towards dog ownership from *many of these dog owners--locals AND non-locals alike.<br />Your view to not "fixate on the problem and to send loving thoughts towards the source" doesn't make it tolerable when it's a chronic and LOUD robo-barker(s!) a few feet away from one's bedroom while the neighbor does nothing to curb the problem barking. Talk to a lot of people on this island (and afar) and you will soon realize that it's typically not about the occasional barker and/or a dog and its owner that just needs your understanding and your patience. And most of us do not have the good fortune to have some distance from these barkers.<br />You can donate your kidney to some of these neighbors and they still wouldn't budge when it comes to working things out with you re: their problem dog(s). Please do not minimize this issue by viewing it from a very limited lens.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-62869108814218395162016-01-18T16:20:36.251-10:002016-01-18T16:20:36.251-10:00KPD is not the only Dept getting investigated.
As...KPD is not the only Dept getting investigated.<br /><br />Ask the Kauai Army National Guard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-83817569088885759412016-01-18T15:50:55.699-10:002016-01-18T15:50:55.699-10:00A rank of LT in KPD is administrator position that...A rank of LT in KPD is administrator position that is below Cpt and assistant chief positions.<br /><br />Remember the Major in HPD that was stealing Drugs (meth) from the evidence room?<br /><br />HPD Chief of police being investigated. Several Maui, Big Island, and Oahu policemen being fired, investigated and also doing prison time.<br /><br />Looks like the Feds is moving up the ranks in KPD and other depts. <br /><br />Who's Next?<br /><br />Inquiring minds would like to know.<br /><br />How's the rapist Tare Low a retired KPD officer and DLNR director TRIAL coming?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-59092841930402759132016-01-18T14:42:38.618-10:002016-01-18T14:42:38.618-10:00@ 12:49 pm
Dog Crap. Quit the local / mainlander...@ 12:49 pm <br /><br />Dog Crap. Quit the local / mainlanders attitude. I wrote the 9:37 pm post and my family has been here for well over a 130 years. Ignorance comes in all colors and shapes.<br /><br />Aloha my friendAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-13901471931506554022016-01-18T12:49:23.902-10:002016-01-18T12:49:23.902-10:00We could skip the political correctness here and j...We could skip the political correctness here and just state the obvious. Barking dogs are much more likely to be owned by non-white locals, and the people complaining about it are much more likely to be white "mainland transplants" And TVR's and B&B's are much more likely to be owned by whites than by non-white locals. And the blogger and many readers here are proposing two different standards of how to deal with offenders, depending on whether the offender is a mainland transplant, with all the racial animosity that entails. Apparently, if the offender is non-white, skip passing laws and just send a lot of love their way. If the offender is white, pass a whole lot of laws, send the cops, and shut the bastards down. I like a lot of things about this blog, but I don't like the way the blogger comes down on the side of "locals" every time - gmo, b&b\tvr, and now barking dogs. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-59408905763175193542016-01-18T11:04:54.389-10:002016-01-18T11:04:54.389-10:005:52 People break laws for all sorts of reasons. ...5:52 People break laws for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes it's to make a buck, and sometimes its because they think they have a god-given right to make as much noise, or be as much of a nuisance, as they want to. In either case, most municipalities have laws to protect others from the unreasonableness of their neighbors, and nearly all municipalities have dog-barking ordinances for a reason, and that reason is that simply sending some love your neighbors way just doesn't quite do the trick sometimes. <br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-57243458275729198392016-01-18T07:38:40.057-10:002016-01-18T07:38:40.057-10:005:52
because dogs are more reasonable than people...5:52<br /><br />because dogs are more reasonable than people who break the law while cashing in while they are doing it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-71290404150454088192016-01-17T21:37:44.673-10:002016-01-17T21:37:44.673-10:00Dear Joan at 11:18
Do you think it's fair tha...Dear Joan at 11:18<br /><br />Do you think it's fair that a 85 year old lady should have to pay for an attorney and whatever else just so she can have a peaceful day and a good nights sleep. She called to the neighbor in the afternoon and asked nicely if she could please control her dogs barking. The response from a 30 year old woman was to mind her own f--- ing business and that her dog can bark whenever and however long it wants. Ask my grandmother. I was there to hear the conversations. <br /><br />@9:14 Joan <br /><br />I myself had a neighbor who was never home. His dog would bark continuously from evening to midnight and beyond. True story ... I finally got so tired of the barking that I made it a point to speak to the dog daily over my fence. I threw him a Scooby snack on every encounter. I even named him browny after his brown color of course. One night he began barking excessively at about 1:00 am. I called to him softly from my window " browny you need to be quiet". He stopped barking from and all of the neighbors sleep well from then on.True story. <br /><br />The moral of the stories are some people or animals can be reasoned with and some not. Rules should be in place for residential districts or subdivisions where homes are in a close proximity to others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-63007337245007390602016-01-17T19:52:53.219-10:002016-01-17T19:52:53.219-10:00I'll take a dog over a TVR or BNB any day, whe...I'll take a dog over a TVR or BNB any day, where can I go for trade ins?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-46140720618580469092016-01-17T17:52:44.072-10:002016-01-17T17:52:44.072-10:00Well heck, Joan, if all the problems of barking do...Well heck, Joan, if all the problems of barking dogs can be so easily solved by taking your approach and getting to know the neighbor and seeing it from their point of view and sending a little love their way, why not take the same approach with b&b owners, instead of depending on law enforcement that forces all taxpayers to foot the bill? Just not seeing why one type of "nuisance" is so amenable to the love thy neighbor approach, and the nuisance isn't. Thanks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-85072575133263060282016-01-17T12:39:46.318-10:002016-01-17T12:39:46.318-10:00What was Kapua thinking?
Envy, Hate, Jealousy.
Tha...What was Kapua thinking?<br />Envy, Hate, Jealousy.<br />That damn Darla got hers. Where is mine?<br /><br />Walk in the light people. C'mon. Be nice. Don't steal. Don't envy. Don't hate. Your mother should, have taught that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com