tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post5287627201067867810..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: "Dirty Fucking Hippies"Joan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-64734668454358379992010-05-03T20:27:24.360-10:002010-05-03T20:27:24.360-10:00Re: "...And you will wish a hippie was runnin...Re: "...And you will wish a hippie was running things."<br /><br />A dirty fuckin' hippie runnin' things? I think not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11427388064112729722010-05-01T12:53:31.891-10:002010-05-01T12:53:31.891-10:00rapprZ"If you failed to instill your values a...rapprZ"If you failed to instill your values and passions........... no wonder the world isn't getting any better"?????? I almost can't believe anyone who seems to think they're so "fucking " smart could write, let alone think such BS. It's a big world in case you haven't noticed, and it's been going on for COUNTLESS generations. Me thinks it sour grapes for Joan Conrow. You missed the 60's generation, born a little too late, and can't get over it, so you stay a closeted "dirty fucking hippie". Take a trip and (beyond your morning walks) see some of this wonderful world. I'll be the first to admit there are lots of problems, but to say it aint getting better because of my generation failure is ignorant beyond words.hip hip hooraynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-18178735799813035992010-05-01T08:49:21.967-10:002010-05-01T08:49:21.967-10:00"If you're a true bleeding heart sixties ..."If you're a true bleeding heart sixties liberal and I mean that in the best way how can you not despair even though a black man occupies the white house?"<br /><br />-- i'll offer a response. lets take a look at the world since, say, 1970. its my understanding (and i am pretty sure i am right, but fact check corrections are welcome) that both in the US and globally humans are doing much better (less infant mortality, fewer crimes against human rights, people are living longer and healthier lives, people are more prosperous generally, literacy is up, more women have more rights, etc etc). still wars? sure. Americans fat? yep. the world has more US-style consumers? ya. do the poor in west virginia or liberia get the help they need? not so much. but the big picture trends are favorable. and while late in coming, there is a genuine worldwide focus on developing and applying environmentally sound practices and energy generation. and politically, in the US (which seems to be your focus), it is a good sign that a black guy was elected (and thankfully he is equipped to do a good job and has largely done a good job in these difficult 2 yrs). is it all roses? heck no...the political center, for example, has been disappearing since the early 90's, and that is a big problem. and please don’t think that the religious right is some sort of unstoppable juggernaut. i could go on for a few pages but will stop here <br /><br />there is a strong basis for tempered optimism. it is not hard to see<br /><br />thanks<br /><br /><br />dwpsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-65085383412174797692010-04-30T21:32:17.470-10:002010-04-30T21:32:17.470-10:00If you're a true bleeding heart sixties libera...If you're a true bleeding heart sixties liberal and I mean that in the best way how can you not despair even though a black man occupies the white house? I mean Obama being prez is like a miracle until you realize the brilliancy of the right: let a super smart black man become president when things are totally fucked up and give him such a hard time that he can't as successful. They will have killed two birds with one stone: the country will never again elect a black man or a super smart democrat. When the frat boys retake the white house and congress, our descent into hell will be all the faster. And you will wish a hippie was running things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-3268448995313092282010-04-30T18:54:32.399-10:002010-04-30T18:54:32.399-10:00hippies invented divorce; drug use too :)
"...hippies invented divorce; drug use too :)<br /><br /><br />"Hippie philosophy is a lifestyle and mindset that doesn't subscribe to '50s ignorance"<br /><br />-- is "productivity" still OK?<br /><br /><br />a smashed post WWII world helps explain much the prosperous US 50’s and 60’s. i wonder where that dynamic fits within the discussion. anyways, the structural drivers of that prosperity seems to be something the hard core political right keep forgetting when they talk about the ~ “good old days” or whatever (back when you could sexually harass all day, drink on the job, not think about black people, get constant middle management raises, gays hid from view, white christian america, etc? <-- on some level it seems whats what they are talking / thinking about, subconsciously at least). kinda like Mad Men :)<br /><br /><br />dwpsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-5581833603674389672010-04-30T14:13:46.837-10:002010-04-30T14:13:46.837-10:00Aloha Joan,
Right on!!! There is much media hype t...Aloha Joan,<br />Right on!!! There is much media hype these days claiming the "Hippies" are responsible for all the nations present ills; that irritates me. I want to write a book entitled "Don't Blame Us Hippies". The '60s boomers encompassed many types, one being the hippie of which I am proud to say I was and still am, although I never believed in the label. My "hooving coke" days were over before it became vogue in the disco era of the mid '70s and '80s. That's when things went to hell. Our parents, in the '50s, raised boys to go for gold...be a doctor, lawyer, etc. and girls were taught to go for gold by marrying a Doctor, etc. Hippie philosophy is a lifestyle and mindset that doesn't subscribe to '50s ignorance. Hippies didn't invent the Games MONOPOLY or LIFE which brainwashed the boomer generation and drove most to rogue competition and materialistic capitalism. Therein lies the Nation's problems. Post '60s, many pseudo hippies turned yuppie and went back for the gold...the hippie mindset was not a genuine lifestyle for them, no judgment intended. True hippies are still true hippies...not "dirty fuckin' hippies but caring persons involved in World solutions with the same passion we had in the '60s. Some became successful financially, some not but, the lifestyle, mindset and...The Song Remains the Same...Craighttp://www.murising.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-69973261220723199582010-04-30T14:10:04.857-10:002010-04-30T14:10:04.857-10:00Mankind is too stupid and greedy to do what needs ...Mankind is too stupid and greedy to do what needs to be done and will meet the fate that it deserves. But, eh, Kauai will still be here when us human roaches are long gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-49129728293846064072010-04-30T10:06:11.808-10:002010-04-30T10:06:11.808-10:00As you said, it is tough to generalize something s...As you said, it is tough to generalize something so big as a generation. Still, I see the evolution of culture from 60s onward as the emergence of personal liberty. In the 60s, it was about empowering the disenfranchised, but later it was about the liberty to experiment with different lifestyles. Some aspect of that is the "hooving coke", etc..<br /><br />In that sense, there was no change after the 60s. It was just a different manifestation of people exercising their newfound liberty. It just so happens that personal liberty can be a messy thing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04387735600809559417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-34714024504862445532010-04-30T09:59:45.432-10:002010-04-30T09:59:45.432-10:00Finally somebody said it. A lot of the hippies I ...Finally somebody said it. A lot of the hippies I see on the Northshore are actually self-centered, unaware,..."dirty fuckin' hippies."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-37236350599370664802010-04-30T09:39:31.410-10:002010-04-30T09:39:31.410-10:00Your friend Andy hit the nail on the head--We got ...Your friend Andy hit the nail on the head--We got tired--children came along---went to war---WE GOT TIRED.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com