tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post5581374832252903092..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Question of EthicsJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-52042191100985890202010-10-11T21:48:24.336-10:002010-10-11T21:48:24.336-10:00It'll be interesting to see how this election ...It'll be interesting to see how this election turns out. I think some of this will make a difference. There will be at least 1 and maybe 2 of the current Council that loses in the contested election. The most likely prospects are that 1 and possibly 2 out of 3 of Kaipo, Tim, or Dickie get bumped off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-46502369627976644122010-10-11T12:16:15.767-10:002010-10-11T12:16:15.767-10:00Well duh! When I donate money to politicians it...Well duh! When I donate money to politicians it's to politicians who do things I approve of and who vote for things I like. That's how I decide who to donate to. It's neither illegal nor immoral for them to take my money. In fact, unless I'm a Nazi or a child molester, they would be stupid to not take my money. Get over it. This is the silliest post yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-80754195150148879932010-10-11T06:58:14.791-10:002010-10-11T06:58:14.791-10:00Kamita's comments are totally out of line. Is ...Kamita's comments are totally out of line. Is he keeping stats on why people are getting Rx for oxy, or just singling out med mj patients for harassment and public disparagement?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-49754238348479678572010-10-11T06:24:32.147-10:002010-10-11T06:24:32.147-10:00Did Tim ever answer the question about his plannin...Did Tim ever answer the question about his planning violation on his property? I don't recall that he did. I am told that he was cited for having an illegal unit on his ag property. Joan, can you check on this and report back to us? I know the Garden Island will never do it. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-46292983686000683122010-10-11T05:29:47.988-10:002010-10-11T05:29:47.988-10:00Kaipo has to be respected for running a low budget...Kaipo has to be respected for running a low budget no donations campaign.<br />Yes, Vote for Kaipo, don't believe a word of the crap (psychological warfare) that Tim has tryed so hard to paint. Kaipo has always had such high standards that he does not take any money, owes no one favors and his votes are almost always for the people. In contrast, Bynman ,(dowecheatemandhow)been doing the bidding of the administration and gutting our ordinances to the benefit of those he takes money from<br />This lays the cards on the table. Tim and Dickie and Jay took money from KAVA and didn't care if it looked like a payoff. Know what guys, it does look like a payoff for your vote.<br /> I'll vote for KaipoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-50455529528713936382010-10-11T05:20:44.944-10:002010-10-11T05:20:44.944-10:00You would expect someone like Jeff Stone to donate...You would expect someone like Jeff Stone to donate lots of money, but KAVA? Are the AG TVR's in a league to compete with Princeville now? After all, who would want to stay in princeville if all the AG lands can be resort? So much BS came out of the curent council. Certaintly they destroyed any zoning parameters we once had.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30476847404197357512010-10-10T22:01:11.812-10:002010-10-10T22:01:11.812-10:00Another one that stands out is Jeff Stone, he was ...Another one that stands out is Jeff Stone, he was making $500 and now $1,000 contributions. He's gonna want something from Council or the Planning Commission soon, no doubt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-13986603169815543322010-10-10T21:09:47.917-10:002010-10-10T21:09:47.917-10:00Thanks for the heads-up; the link is fixed.Thanks for the heads-up; the link is fixed.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-7194496286039760852010-10-10T20:47:26.296-10:002010-10-10T20:47:26.296-10:00BTW, Joan, your link for Tim does not go to his $1...BTW, Joan, your link for Tim does not go to his $1,000 contribution received from KAVA.<br /><br />The readers should know that at the Council level $1,000 contributions as from KAVA and A&B are rare. They stand out. They are in expectation of or reward for something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30740548124765686582010-10-10T20:42:31.340-10:002010-10-10T20:42:31.340-10:00Reminds me of that Phoenix Coach blowup.
Re: Ano...Reminds me of that Phoenix Coach blowup.<br /><br />Re: Anonymous said...<br /><br />"They are who we thought they were!"<br /><br />October 10, 2010 4:05 PMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-40077746232734053862010-10-10T16:27:20.464-10:002010-10-10T16:27:20.464-10:00No vote for Jay, Tim or Dickie. Kaipo has to be re...No vote for Jay, Tim or Dickie. Kaipo has to be respected for running a low budget no donations campaign. Win or loose it will be on his terms. Gotta admire him for that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-71081800032808028382010-10-10T16:13:51.936-10:002010-10-10T16:13:51.936-10:00And certainly if dickie hadn't changed his min...And certainly if dickie hadn't changed his mind after 3 county attorneys visited him(aka county beerfest) , he would have got squat, so it is in fact a reward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-23793639711361592322010-10-10T16:11:37.421-10:002010-10-10T16:11:37.421-10:00Just like it seemed, they benefited by the decisio...Just like it seemed, they benefited by the decision. Vote em outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-5036248330143252932010-10-10T16:10:38.252-10:002010-10-10T16:10:38.252-10:00If it looks like a crook, smells like a crook, wal...If it looks like a crook, smells like a crook, walks like a crook, guess what?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-63351031652330868262010-10-10T16:06:11.622-10:002010-10-10T16:06:11.622-10:00intended to influence.
sounds like future tense t...intended to influence.<br /><br />sounds like future tense to me.<br /><br />was the "gift" given before the supposed influenced vote? no.<br /><br />was a promise to "gift" a voter used as an "influence" prior to the vote?<br />can't be proven.<br /><br />so, you're left with...nothing. conjecture. "reasonably inferred"..."seems like"..<br /><br />not proof.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-15966433315846579182010-10-10T16:05:03.508-10:002010-10-10T16:05:03.508-10:00They are who we thought they were.They are who we thought they were.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-77186270807949582442010-10-10T15:22:46.350-10:002010-10-10T15:22:46.350-10:00Nadine and Mel are not on the council at nthe mome...Nadine and Mel are not on the council at nthe moment, and do not and did not have a vote in Kukui'ula. of couse companies like A&B give donations, its the voting part, whether right after or before,that is unethical. <br />"it is under circumstances in which it can reasonably be inferred that the gift is intended to influence him in the performance of his official duties or is intended as a reward for any official action on his part." Simply put, the &1000 to Dickie, Tim and Jay certainly seem like a reward. They should have returned the money if it wasn't. <br />Those guys don't get my vote this timeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-5104927090532845592010-10-10T13:03:52.200-10:002010-10-10T13:03:52.200-10:00BTW, Dickie, Jay, Nadine and Mel still have not re...BTW, Dickie, Jay, Nadine and Mel still have not reported their sizeable contributions from A&B vis-a-vis Kukui'ula. In the case of Jay it was a $1,000 still unreported by the candidate. In the case of Dickie it was the one back in June never reported. Nadine and Mel haven't filed the next report that it should show up in. They all got a total of a $1,000 each for their good work on behalf of A&B. Anybody up to filing the Section 20.05D(1) complaint at least on the current Council members with the County Board of Ethics?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-24830088616081226302010-10-10T12:51:46.864-10:002010-10-10T12:51:46.864-10:00Regarding the KAVA money, it was given after the c...Regarding the KAVA money, it was given after the councilman's decision. Unless there is proof that an "arrangement was made" prior to the vote, it cannot be proven that such contributions represent influence-peddling gifts. No prior conspiracy.<br /><br />It's just the way it works. It may look like a duck and quack like a duck, but without the "legal DNA" of prior conspiracy, it cannot be proven that is is a duck.<br /><br />Regarding the BI MJ scripts, there's rough homemade hand-painted signs nailed to various electric poles in HOVE that say, in effect, "for MJ scripts, call ..." and it gives a number.<br /><br />Looks like Elvis's own "Dr. Nick" is alive and practicing here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-12631719733542045852010-10-10T12:33:23.069-10:002010-10-10T12:33:23.069-10:00Nice mention of Tim, Dickie, and Jay getting high ...Nice mention of Tim, Dickie, and Jay getting high on KAVA moneys while lounging on somebody's vacation rental on ag land.<br /><br />Anybody in the public can file a complaint about this under Section 20.05D(1) with the County Board of Ethics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com