tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post5970811290418680226..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Save What Speaks to YouJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30681582140857212752008-07-03T19:31:00.000-10:002008-07-03T19:31:00.000-10:00Of all the untruths that have been spread about Ob...Of all the untruths that have been spread about Obama, "fear of failure" has gotta be the silliest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-70309955638522025682008-07-03T16:32:00.000-10:002008-07-03T16:32:00.000-10:00How can you compare Bush, who was born with the pr...How can you compare Bush, who was born with the proverbial silver spoon in his mouth and had every opportunity given to him with Obama, who was raised by a single mother and, after attending some of the best schools on scholarships, worked to become a professor at the University of Chicago and a US Senator? What can you expect from a citizenry who elected Reagan, a former laundry soap salesman or Bush, the village idiot, to two terms each?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-79940367504495418092008-07-03T09:23:00.000-10:002008-07-03T09:23:00.000-10:00Fear of failure keeps a lot of people out of the p...Fear of failure keeps a lot of people out of the private sector. So many of them end up working for the government. Bush/Obama...take your pick!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-10047894508257565772008-07-03T06:57:00.000-10:002008-07-03T06:57:00.000-10:00After graduating from Harvard Law School, Barack O...After graduating from Harvard Law School, Barack Obama could have had his pick of any number of jobs in the legal profession. Instead, he chose to become a community organizer. The University of Chicago's law school, arguably the best in our country, offered Barack Obama a fully tenured position as a constitutional law professor. He decided to teach part time in order to get involved in politics. Bush still doesn't know that we have a Constitution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-41021392869951803442008-07-03T06:40:00.000-10:002008-07-03T06:40:00.000-10:00Harry Truman failed as a businessman before devoti...Harry Truman failed as a businessman before devoting himself to democratic party machine politics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-65716818560093769782008-07-03T00:19:00.000-10:002008-07-03T00:19:00.000-10:00And Obama who can't get a job outside of being ele...And Obama who can't get a job outside of being elected a Senator. All talk and no substance!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-26938020713144366852008-07-02T22:52:00.000-10:002008-07-02T22:52:00.000-10:00"That just makes you a socialist who can't make it..."That just makes you a socialist who can't make it in private business."<BR/><BR/>Well, if he can't make it in private business, he can become president. Look at our fearless leader Bush, who f-ed up every job he had while he was in "private business".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-68717251291177470122008-07-02T18:38:00.000-10:002008-07-02T18:38:00.000-10:00Oh, I still love you Edward Coll even though you'r...Oh, I still love you Edward Coll even though you're an ivory tower lefty. That just makes you a socialist who can't make it in private business. You must be a friend of Katy's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-75565527617465179422008-07-02T18:35:00.000-10:002008-07-02T18:35:00.000-10:00You're welcome, Ed. Thanks for checking it out.You're welcome, Ed. Thanks for checking it out.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-62034913265062278122008-07-02T16:32:00.000-10:002008-07-02T16:32:00.000-10:00"They're angry because they're so unfortunate and ..."They're angry because they're so unfortunate and they're communists because they want, without working for it, what others have achieved with their own hands. After all, "It's only fair!!!""<BR/><BR/>I didn't know George Bush was a communist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-16300076741407475922008-07-02T16:31:00.000-10:002008-07-02T16:31:00.000-10:00Joan,THX for the link to Meade’s talk. Enjoyed it....Joan,<BR/><BR/>THX for the link to Meade’s talk. Enjoyed it.Ed Collhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04478789139917889309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-21235819446867849792008-07-02T16:18:00.001-10:002008-07-02T16:18:00.001-10:00Anonymous July 2, 2008 11:31 AMsaid...Ahhh...where...Anonymous July 2, 2008 11:31 AM<BR/>said...<BR/><BR/>Ahhh...where have I been? We now have two Communists on Kauai? Katy Rose and, now I discover from his comments, Ed Coll? <BR/><BR/>Where have you been? Evidently jumping to (the wrong) conclusions for your deductions display an astounding lack of logic. Just because I criticize capitalism does not make me a commie. No apologies here if I don't fit into your reductionistic, bifurcated world-view. Using your "logic" one might draw a hasty conclusion that you are an Ignoranus but that would be an incorrect ad hominem attack so I will withold my conclusion (for now). <BR/><BR/>FYI I am not a communists in fact communists are as bad as capitalists. A pox on both their houses and throw in fascists and totalitarians for good measure.<BR/><BR/>As Air Force Col John Boyd said in his classic work on warfare "everyone wants to survive and more importantly on their own terms." <BR/><BR/>Based on that comment I guess now you would categorize me as an imperalistic, militaristic war monger.<BR/><BR/>As for being angry, why should I be angry I live in Paradise in the lap of luxury doing exactly what I want whenever I want. Life is good.<BR/><BR/>BTW - I also am an advocate of anonymous free speech as it protects people with unpopular ideas (like yourself) from retribution in what you obviously feel is an intolerant society.Ed Collhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04478789139917889309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-53519354518104110892008-07-02T16:18:00.000-10:002008-07-02T16:18:00.000-10:00"Capitalism isn't inherently good or bad, but it c..."Capitalism isn't inherently good or bad, but it can sometimes lead to outcomes that some people don't approve of."<BR/><BR/>Uncontrolled, in the service of greed, it can lead to outcomes that nobody wants. It can destroy the very things the capitalist himself valued in the first place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-21202864644016055592008-07-02T16:14:00.000-10:002008-07-02T16:14:00.000-10:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ed Collhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04478789139917889309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-65158801770202362472008-07-02T16:02:00.000-10:002008-07-02T16:02:00.000-10:00> Sure! These cabalists were citizens of the Kingd...<I>> Sure! These cabalists were citizens of the Kingdom who revolted against their flawed monarch who was going to withdraw constitutional government; a revolution much like in France and the Americas. She got less than what she deserved. < </I><BR/><BR/>Well... I suppose that in an age where 15% of the people in recent poll believe the Apollo moon landings were faked, the idea that the overthrow of the Hawaiian Monarchy was like the American Revolution isn't <I>that</I> crazy.<BR/><BR/>...Is it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-9891315332560616392008-07-02T15:18:00.000-10:002008-07-02T15:18:00.000-10:00"Oh! Like the swell cabal of buddies who overthrew..."Oh! Like the swell cabal of buddies who overthrew the Monarchy." <BR/>Sure! These cabalists were citizens of the Kingdom who revolted against their flawed monarch who was going to withdraw constitutional government; a revolution much like in France and the Americas. She got less than what she deserved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-21284635801276442132008-07-02T15:09:00.000-10:002008-07-02T15:09:00.000-10:00So Ed was wrong when he said taking more than what...So Ed was wrong when he said taking more than what you give is what capitalism is. Capitalism isn't inherently good or bad, but it can sometimes lead to outcomes that some people don't approve of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-41466900895015033662008-07-02T14:10:00.000-10:002008-07-02T14:10:00.000-10:00> I'm a capitalist. I buy wood and nails from the ...<I> > I'm a capitalist. I buy wood and nails from the lumber store, and I have tools that I bought from the hardware store. I build birdhouses and sell them for more than the cost of the wood and more than enough to pay for the tools over their useful life. How have I taken more than I've given? < </I><BR/><BR/>You haven't. Your buying, building and selling has profited you and profited others, and has disrespected no one and displaced no one (okay, birds). You haven't hired lobbyists to lean on legislators to write loose laws to let you built luxury homes on ancestors' bones. Your capitalism is renewable, and profitable in more ways than money. <BR/><BR/>In contrast, the capitalism of the power machine that is gouging great chunks of Kauai into money mines for millionaires -- damn the consequences to local hearts and souls -- is out of control, in large part with the collusion of those people who were elected by the people to protect the people.<BR/><BR/>Capitalism vs. communism <I>per se</I> has precisely jack to do with Bresica, Perry, seashores, houses, bones, or Big Box stores that block the view. The right to work for personal gain isn't the issue. The personal cost to others -- in all the ways that Others exist -- is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-50176572148281772952008-07-02T13:24:00.000-10:002008-07-02T13:24:00.000-10:00Communists have done their share of overthrowing r...Communists have done their share of overthrowing regimes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-64331816606005508542008-07-02T12:36:00.000-10:002008-07-02T12:36:00.000-10:00> ...they want, without working for it, what other...<I> > ...they want, without working for it, what others have achieved with their own hands. < </I><BR/><BR/>Oh! Like the swell cabal of buddies who overthrew the Monarchy. <BR/><BR/>:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-75478804200584275742008-07-02T12:34:00.000-10:002008-07-02T12:34:00.000-10:00I'm a capitalist. I buy wood and nails from the lu...I'm a capitalist. I buy wood and nails from the lumber store, and I have tools that I bought from the hardware store. I build birdhouses and sell them for more than the cost of the wood and more than enough to pay for the tools over their useful life. How have I taken more than I've given?<BR/><BR/>I hire someone to build the birdhouses. I sell the birdhouses for more than the cost of the wood and the tools and the builder. I've given a person a job, I've purchased things from the lumber and hardware stores, further supporting the workers who work at those places. I've provided something people want to buy instead of having to make for themselves. How have I taken more than I've given?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-24112447108279233292008-07-02T11:31:00.000-10:002008-07-02T11:31:00.000-10:00Ahhh...where have I been? We now have two Communi...Ahhh...where have I been? We now have two Communists on Kauai? Katy Rose and, now I discover from his comments, Ed Coll? We're starting to get a regular little Maoist Club here. Isn't that cute? You ever notice that communists are, to a person, ugly? They're angry because they're so unfortunate and they're communists because they want, without working for it, what others have achieved with their own hands. After all, "It's only fair!!!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-68984897613708642292008-07-02T08:17:00.000-10:002008-07-02T08:17:00.000-10:00how not western is socialism?how not western is socialism?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-1229660790287967922008-07-02T06:51:00.000-10:002008-07-02T06:51:00.000-10:00Uh, not building over bones IS a western idea! The...Uh, not building over bones IS a western idea! The beatification of long forgotten human remains is a thoroughly western notion! Do you think leftist and their notions are any less guilty of imposing your foreign values.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-3070239888209754872008-07-02T04:15:00.000-10:002008-07-02T04:15:00.000-10:00You come here with western ideas, capitalistic sys...You come here with western ideas, capitalistic system. What is capitalism? One takes more than one gives. That's what capitalism is.<BR/><BR/>A Buddhist monk was lying on the ground with his feet resting on a statue of the Buddha. An unenlightened passerby said, "get your feet off the Buddha." Why asked the monk? Because it is sacred replied the passerby. And where may I put my feet that is not sacred?<BR/><BR/>Malama Aina.Ed Collhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04478789139917889309noreply@blogger.com