tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post621992727044931269..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Touring the Kauai Seed Fields: Part IJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-71010454633864283912015-08-09T05:09:58.629-10:002015-08-09T05:09:58.629-10:00@12:20 Katie says: I don't "talk shit&quo...@12:20 Katie says: I don't "talk shit" I talk facts!<br /><br />No way! I have seen your snarky shit talk on Facebook. You make up your "facts."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-63442127908336232652015-08-07T06:14:16.313-10:002015-08-07T06:14:16.313-10:00spoken like an ego maniac... New concept; I know.K...spoken like an ego maniac... New concept; I know.Katie, maybe you know what you know, but not as much as you think you doAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-43366986893877775812015-08-07T06:11:41.329-10:002015-08-07T06:11:41.329-10:00and people or farmers choose what thy want to grow...and people or farmers choose what thy want to grow, if you are a marijuana farmer, you don't want the herms or the males, if you are growing papaya,the males only make flowers and you want the herm, choosing what you grow has always been important. Many people choose hybrids for their characteristics such as strength, disease resistance and time of growth, others want open pollinated seeds so they can replant the seeds, but giving your garden time to allow the plants to set seeds and dry and regrow, you may miss the season to plant, so most farmers choose to buy seeds Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-53959477124785397802015-08-06T13:30:29.305-10:002015-08-06T13:30:29.305-10:00Hermaphrodite
Wikipedia
In biology, a hermaphrod...Hermaphrodite<br />Wikipedia <br /><br />In biology, a hermaphrodite is an organism that has reproductive organs normally associated with both male and female sexes.[1] Many taxonomic groups of animals (mostly invertebrates) do not have separate sexes.[2] In these groups, hermaphroditism is a normal condition, enabling a form of sexual reproduction in which both partners can act as the "female" or "male". For example, the great majority of tunicates, pulmonate snails, opisthobranch snails and slugs are hermaphrodites. Hermaphroditism is also found in some fish species and to a lesser degree in other vertebrates. Most plants are also hermaphrodites.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-9953104906350317742015-08-06T12:29:17.483-10:002015-08-06T12:29:17.483-10:00Well, Waimea won the lawsuit! Isn't that some...Well, Waimea won the lawsuit! Isn't that something in itself----the seed companies are not all that honest and have taken the islanders down an ugly path---do you realize how hard people had to work regarding the lawsuit?! It's not a usual "local type of doing", but something had to be done for the sake of the people! Hybrid's?---using gmoed seeds? Can you get an answer for that? Where are these being grown? I would like to know so that we can check out if the spraying of pesticides are any different than what is done for the gmo fields. Meanwhile, what you learned sounds very good---did they tell you everything---any junk stuff that they themselves are still trying to figure out? And don't think Robinson will sell land where DOW's offices are, no need to worry about realtors getting rich with Robinson's properties! Yep, you can see the ocean, Niihau--beautiful---you make it so enticing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-83085712776126211772015-08-06T12:20:15.188-10:002015-08-06T12:20:15.188-10:00Hey "Anonymous" you are so brave when yo...Hey "Anonymous" you are so brave when you don't share who you are? I don't "talk shit" I talk facts! New concept; I know.KatieHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10648250890784259782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-78176507270208883622015-08-06T08:37:34.759-10:002015-08-06T08:37:34.759-10:008/6 @ 8:01 AM, so clever sounding yet so woefully ...8/6 @ 8:01 AM, so clever sounding yet so woefully ignorant and ineffective. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-27058023458863593412015-08-06T08:13:13.739-10:002015-08-06T08:13:13.739-10:00Ashleigh,
And I would like to see some of the so...Ashleigh, <br /><br />And I would like to see some of the so-called research that you and your anti-GMO cohorts conducted before making allegations against the Kauai seed companies. Is there any factual proof to back up your claims???Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-36174541554408642912015-08-06T08:12:09.626-10:002015-08-06T08:12:09.626-10:00First of all the 150K could have bought the county...First of all the 150K could have bought the county 5-6 15 passenger vans, second there's open fields all over the Northshore that could be used as a park and ride site, third if you don't have a solution then just go back to doing what you all do on the Northshore and live that painted fantasy.<br /><br />5-6 15 passenger vans equates to 75-90 people who can be shuttled from Princeville to Ke'e and back again from 7am to 7pm. So there goes your thousands of satisfied tourists. Oahu uses trollies and even in nawiliwili, Kauai they use trollies to shuttle hundreds/thousands of tourists.<br /><br />So don't act like you are that ignorant but if you are then that signifies people like you is what's wrong with the county of Kauai.<br /><br />150K for a personal business to run a shuttle on the Northshore of Kauai. That's 50K a month for the sole operator/owner. Are you frickin serious? Why don't the county just throw 100 dollar bills at the Christmas parade in Lihue? Probably the voters will vote your Mayor for a 3rd term after displaying their underdeveloped minds acting like children.<br /><br />When a problem is identified, solutions must be brought to the discussion. If you don't have any input then you are as useless as carrying groceries in wet paper bag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-74996405687091097062015-08-06T08:01:00.437-10:002015-08-06T08:01:00.437-10:00Is that like being 50% pregnant? Is that like being 50% pregnant? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-85957587120815507372015-08-06T07:55:11.036-10:002015-08-06T07:55:11.036-10:00I would like to see your so called research, would...I would like to see your so called research, would you make that available. Is there any factual proof you have to back up your claims??Ashleigh kleinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-78005550650073906932015-08-06T06:45:51.059-10:002015-08-06T06:45:51.059-10:00Anonymous 3:53-- Here's a bit more to add to y...Anonymous 3:53-- Here's a bit more to add to your educamation about hybrids:<br /><br /> A hybrid is a cross between a male and a female line of corn. Usually one – male or female – but not both have the GE trait(s). The other then obviously does not. Since Kauai companies produce both the male and female lines of parent seed, in general, half the parent seed grown here is non-GMO. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-59972181808568581742015-08-06T05:27:04.942-10:002015-08-06T05:27:04.942-10:00I find it hilarious that katie Horgan is ALWAYS ta...I find it hilarious that katie Horgan is ALWAYS talking s*** about you and your blog on FB but here she is in the comments. lol!!! Your the only game in town JoanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-75523988931511877032015-08-06T05:18:25.960-10:002015-08-06T05:18:25.960-10:00Great Job Joan,
It is rare to see real journalist...Great Job Joan, <br />It is rare to see real journalist nowadays and I can see by the scattering of coach-roaches in the comment section that you have hit the correct light switch and it is sufficiently bright.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-57096752886796979902015-08-06T04:48:45.906-10:002015-08-06T04:48:45.906-10:00You are talking the hundreds of tourists tying yo ...You are talking the hundreds of tourists tying yo get to the end of the road, no it it thousands of tourists a day. And what open field, you mean the park and soccer field? Why do you think we should take our park and turn the into parking lots?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-69453498748186927062015-08-05T21:37:25.010-10:002015-08-05T21:37:25.010-10:007:58 I wrote a very specific set of stories for th...7:58 I wrote a very specific set of stories for the Alliance. No one pays me to write anything in my blog. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-40762216546280015582015-08-05T21:37:13.946-10:002015-08-05T21:37:13.946-10:00Instead of giving tax credits to the movie Industr...Instead of giving tax credits to the movie Industry, the county should learn from them.<br /><br />Park and ride then shuttle movie extras, production crew, staff, and dignitaries to the filming site.<br /><br />This would work well from Hanalei to Ke'e. Park in the open field then transport the tourists to the sites. If the county uses 15 passenger vans at a dollar per head then it's $15 dollar in and $15 out. The county should charge a couple dollars per vehicle in an open lot that would be secured because we know how the local thieves like to prey on tourists.<br /><br />This would supplement the income of local retirees on the Northshore. Hopefully it will be enough to help them live in the area where their families been for generations. Instead of displacing them from their paradise.<br /><br />It's a system paid for by the tourists that wouldnt cost tax payers, businesses and hotels nothing but for the up front cost. It can all be recouped through the 100's of tourists trying to get to the popular Northshore sites that don't have any parking because of overcrowding.<br /><br />Food for thought without the 200K consultant fee. GiterdoneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-31239712896032098652015-08-05T19:58:37.322-10:002015-08-05T19:58:37.322-10:00Joan. Does Alliance for Science pay you per word,...Joan. Does Alliance for Science pay you per word, per blog post or pet click? As you mentioned earlier they arenpsyingbyou to write this stuff. And no I don't expect you to allow this comment as you are in fact a dishonest industry shill masqueradeing as an independent blogger. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38326744798352581352015-08-05T18:22:21.909-10:002015-08-05T18:22:21.909-10:00Kauai will never be sustainable. Da Hoos, JoAnn an...Kauai will never be sustainable. Da Hoos, JoAnn and Mason's idear on sustainably are the large 5 acre home sites on the NS that are worth 1 to 20 million, plant a few Lychee and a get few goats and Voila! a sustaining farm.<br />For sustainability to work output must cover true costs. Costs are high. The Council does not address real issues on Kauai like high taxes, high County costs, roads etc. They pretend to be important by filling their agendas with small issues.<br />But even if land was free, water was free and labor was free and their was an abundance of food....at the rate Kauai is going the perishables would rot by the time it takes to go thru the Kapaa/Wailua corridor.<br />Council work the State to at least leave the Lihue Bound Cones up until 5PM...this will stop the traffic jam. <br />Joan- thank you for your coverage of this. Another point that may be revealed, is that tho' these are commercial ag operations, the workers have a real tie to land. It seems the dedication to the land supersedes everything else. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-9969642499550443032015-08-05T17:54:51.857-10:002015-08-05T17:54:51.857-10:00That's why you pay Infated prices. All you hav...That's why you pay Infated prices. All you have to do is look at food prices that has risen like oil/gas prices the last 5-7 years. So your dollar is not worth what its buying power was back as recently as a year ago and this is even when gas/oil prices has gone down.<br /><br />They put American oil on a ship then turn it around, switching the flag and then charging at the Infated prices.<br /><br />Kauai shrimp has gone up from $12 a 2 lb box to $22 in just over a year, the May's marinated meats started at $5-7 to now anywhere from $13-$22 for the same boxed meats and look at Pok'e from $5 a lb to $11.99 a lb even after Fukushima is polluting the Pacific Ocean with toxic radiation.<br /><br />So you all see why growing food on Kauai and the state of Hawaii should be the number 1 most important issue in the state. The fad word sustainable is just like the words Peace, together we can, shaka brah, fo shizzle... Until it will lose its coolness and then replaced by another word/slogan drummed up by the mob/politicians.<br /><br />Play that funky music Kauai boy<br />Play that funky music right<br />Play that funky music Kauai boy<br />Grow your own food and let the GMO issues dieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-68867878911787913982015-08-05T17:44:56.280-10:002015-08-05T17:44:56.280-10:00I whole-heartedly support local sustainability ini...I whole-heartedly support local sustainability initiatives that can successfully compete in replacing imported food with locally grown food. That is always ideal and a goal the island should be working toward. Given the current availability of land, the seed companies pose no barrier to the expansion of local food production and self-sufficiency. In fact, in many ways they can help it by keeping irrigation systems going, doing subleases, etc.<br /><br />I am not a whole-hearted supporter of the corn-based American diet, feed lots, or all seed/chem company business practices and products. I'm just trying to shed a little light on how they operate on Kauai so people can have more rational discussions about things like their role in sustainability.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-47991424511346168522015-08-05T17:24:04.448-10:002015-08-05T17:24:04.448-10:00Joan, I am curious. Do you think the seed companie...Joan, I am curious. Do you think the seed companies us of farm land on Kauaʻi is a good example of self-sufficiency and sustainability? I hear they produce seed, ship it to the USA, it is grown there using biocides, the corn is fed to cattle whose stomachs are not designed for it at feed lots, the cattle are butchered and packaged and the meat is the shipped back to Kauaʻi where we can buy it at Safeway or Costco or Big Save. Seems like a lot of wasted oil and energy, donʻt you think? Isnʻt it better to produce food and consume it locally without exporting and then importing back? And the corn grown from these seeds is also used to produce high fructose corn syrup which is an essential ingredient in tons of junk food which is not healthy but promoted by the industry. If we compare a system such as this to organic farms on Kauaʻi which actually produce healthy food for us to eat right here, which system do you think is the better at being sustainable and supportive of self-sufficiency?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-42504211115980840482015-08-05T15:59:17.638-10:002015-08-05T15:59:17.638-10:00I'm not sure why you're so wildly incensed...I'm not sure why you're so wildly incensed, but perhaps this will clarify my statement for you: They are also developing hybrid lines that do not have biotech traits.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-58250555537491554192015-08-05T15:53:31.024-10:002015-08-05T15:53:31.024-10:00Look, I don't care if you choose to throw away...Look, I don't care if you choose to throw away what little credibility you have left, but writing "At least half of what they grow is not GMO, because when you're making hybrids, one plant will be genetically engineered and the other won't." is absolute nonsense and you must have either 1) misspoke 2) Wrote what the GMO companies said verbatim without actually fact checking and/or 3) Really have no more idea what you're talking about than Dustin Barca or Gary Hooser.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-64642045508658389072015-08-05T15:49:35.811-10:002015-08-05T15:49:35.811-10:00Well just hold your horses, Katie Horgan. I can&#...Well just hold your horses, Katie Horgan. I can't fit everything into one post. First off, you're making a lot of false assumptions here, just as you did a lot of sketchy number crunching that created the 18 tons per year myth. I'll be addressing weight as a poor measure of toxicity, how many humans really are next door and much more in subsequent posts.<br /><br />Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.com