tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post6273989949169710782..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Beach Blanket BingoJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-84927581948644244672015-06-24T19:52:55.333-10:002015-06-24T19:52:55.333-10:00The court house most definately has a copy machine...The court house most definately has a copy machine for peope to use.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-81073654112098616792015-06-24T11:14:01.590-10:002015-06-24T11:14:01.590-10:00Unless you can get the defendant to get those reco...Unless you can get the defendant to get those records from his/her public defender and make copies then present them before you. The state bldg doesn't have a copy machine for public use so the person will have to go else where to make copies. The public defender will tell you no documents should leave the bldg but it's the defendants right to have copies of charges filed against him/her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30651501309200332432015-06-24T10:17:43.993-10:002015-06-24T10:17:43.993-10:00Yeah, well that's how a public records request...Yeah, well that's how a public records request goes. You make the request full of hope that the record will be released so you can learn what really went down, and then you hit the reality of a system that wants to keep as much hidden as possible.<br /><br />The policy on releasing police reports is rooted in state law, not county, so pressuring the mayor won't have much impact.<br /><br />And you keep on applauding TGI and they won;t get any better.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-50764890363726807572015-06-24T10:07:29.682-10:002015-06-24T10:07:29.682-10:00One other thought to add to my previous remark (I ...One other thought to add to my previous remark (I quoted your blog entry and comments). Maybe you should use the power of this blog to put pressure on the mayor's administration to change the rules regarding transparency.<br /><br />TGI talked to other people. I applaud them for continuing to work to get the story, even thought the police refuse to let anyone see the reports.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-86030681026554888792015-06-24T10:04:51.358-10:002015-06-24T10:04:51.358-10:00From the blog entry by Joan Conrow: "I've...From the blog entry by Joan Conrow: "I've made a public records request for police reports in both cases, so we can learn what was actually reported to the police, as opposed to the rumor and hearsay published in TGI."<br /><br />From a comment by Joan Conrow: "We're never going to get the police reports. They won't release them..."<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-55368908319414302852015-06-24T09:35:33.221-10:002015-06-24T09:35:33.221-10:00We're never going to get the police reports. T...We're never going to get the police reports. They won't release them until the case is closed, which they define as set for trial, at which time the reports become irrelevant, because all the details would be in court documents, which are public. The reason cited is that release of the report could hamper a legitimate government function, since the case is still under investigation. Sadly, the Office of Information supports this interpretation of the law, which inhibits transparency in the police department.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-46962638558297151452015-06-24T09:22:29.871-10:002015-06-24T09:22:29.871-10:00Joan, please post the police reports when you get ...Joan, please post the police reports when you get them. As I understand it, the police will not release them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-83676244560563202002015-06-24T01:27:29.977-10:002015-06-24T01:27:29.977-10:00 My question was, does she really know her sources... My question was, does she really know her sources? And my assertion is no, given her short tenure on the beat. Which then begs the question, can she really know her stuff, if she gives unknown sources such prominence? Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-26885665351614476912015-06-23T22:35:59.126-10:002015-06-23T22:35:59.126-10:00So, I googled the reporter you mentioned. She'...So, I googled the reporter you mentioned. She's won a lot of prestigious awards for her work. I understand your point about the unnamed source, but seems like Ms. Lyte knows her stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-24200618466930264102015-06-23T19:18:03.133-10:002015-06-23T19:18:03.133-10:007:32 jump in the council race you seem to think yo...7:32 jump in the council race you seem to think you have the ability talk is cheap!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-87905029639482779162015-06-23T13:13:39.713-10:002015-06-23T13:13:39.713-10:00The Chief wants to do a MASS punishment then why d...The Chief wants to do a MASS punishment then why don't he do a MASS punishment to all the KPD syndicate PIGS and fire them and filed criminal charges and lock those dirty PIGS up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-31170149946435869732015-06-23T11:51:54.460-10:002015-06-23T11:51:54.460-10:00@ 7:23 am:
"As I scroll down the comment pag...@ 7:23 am:<br /><br />"As I scroll down the comment pages of Kauai Eclectic, I am saddened to see that many of the comments have devolved into vitriolic hyperbole. These carefully conceived caricatures in black and white perpetuate stereotypes and do little to offer solutions or promote common ground. We live in one of the most beautiful places on the planet. Some of us were born here, others of us moved here and found a place to call home. Can we find a way to live together? To treat one another with kindness and respect? To celebrate and honor our diversity? Can we contribute to our communities in ways that will be mutually beneficial to all? Are we willing to take responsibility for our own actions before pointing the finger at our neighbors? Is the glass half empty or half full? Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me." <br />XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<br /><br />Well said. Be ponoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-39309184376074531912015-06-23T11:33:07.970-10:002015-06-23T11:33:07.970-10:00At 9:45 am and 9:47am - good posts. Riding bike o...At 9:45 am and 9:47am - good posts. Riding bike on the back roads of Kekaha Sugar Plantation was the best times of my life. Things surely have changed, but life goes on and we should all make the best of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-74102636341373697152015-06-23T09:47:20.718-10:002015-06-23T09:47:20.718-10:00"When in Rome, do as the Romans do" When..."When in Rome, do as the Romans do" When in Kauai, .... slight chance. People come to Kauai for different reasons. all individuals are different. some get along with others, some do not. We all don't need to think the same but we can all agree to disagree. we throw all kind kine words at each other to get a reaction. words can hurt, heal or mend. This blog allows us to express ourselves. some choose to hurt, some choose to heal and some choose to mend. we all live on Kauai which should be a special place to us. peace be with you all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-77558157378808944422015-06-23T09:45:55.735-10:002015-06-23T09:45:55.735-10:00I don't think that kama'aina necessarily h...I don't think that kama'aina necessarily hate tourists & transplants. It's more of the changes that have been made here. Not very long ago Kauai was almost entirely rural and agricultural. This means that most of the land was open and not strictly guarded. Since most folks worked in ag, they, their family and friends, had easy access or freedom to trespass over these lands that are now developed and closed off to them. The loss of ag jobs has been offset somewhat by tourist industry jobs and services provided to the newcomers and their estates. But what was open and easy is now closed, guarded and gone. I think it is the resentment of this that is the basis for much of misbehavior we see happening today. Of course, add drugs, booze and the resulting unemployment those substances cause along with the breakdown of the family and the tight-knit communities of the past and you get what's happening today. "Change" is not necessarily positive as some politicians would have us believe.Manuahihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10935756151568533081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-9655608931062082902015-06-23T07:32:22.110-10:002015-06-23T07:32:22.110-10:00The County is now trying to implement Rules on Dev...The County is now trying to implement Rules on Development. Law passed years ago. Planning department is finally getting the rules. Strange . <br />I guess the Planning Department has been "ENFORCING" the law without rules. Only by personal opinion by the director. Not bad. <br />The new law and rules will screw any chance of local housing.<br />Maybe your input can make a difference...Our Council continuously passes laws that hurt the people and does NOT address problems.<br />Punch outs on the beach----outlaw drinking, let's make criminals out of everybody<br />No Housing- let's pass laws that make it more difficult to build for the locals.<br />Pukas in the streets, homeless, Mt Yukimura astonishing heights, drugs, out of control spending? No mind. The Council has NO plans to fix anything. No ideas. No bold leadership.<br />When is the last time the Council did something FOR the island? Where are the leaders? Oh yeah, trespassing on Ag Land, in Swizzerland, creating more jobs for friends on County payroll...Kauai Council Motto- doing unto others as they would never want others to do unto them. They all have big time pensions from State /County except Kipikai and Arryll....maybe the only 2 half way honest bananas in the over-ripe bunch. Yes, we have plenny over ripe bananas today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-34722056986961769012015-06-23T07:23:28.426-10:002015-06-23T07:23:28.426-10:00As I scroll down the comment pages of Kauai Eclect...As I scroll down the comment pages of Kauai Eclectic, I am saddened to see that many of the comments have devolved into vitriolic hyperbole. These carefully conceived caricatures in black and white perpetuate stereotypes and do little to offer solutions or promote common ground. We live in one of the most beautiful places on the planet. Some of us were born here, others of us moved here and found a place to call home. Can we find a way to live together? To treat one another with kindness and respect? To celebrate and honor our diversity? Can we contribute to our communities in ways that will be mutually beneficial to all? Are we willing to take responsibility for our own actions before pointing the finger at our neighbors? Is the glass half empty or half full? Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-84057320132656702112015-06-23T06:24:45.995-10:002015-06-23T06:24:45.995-10:0012:20 Chock, Hooser and JoAnn Yukimura's mode...12:20 Chock, Hooser and JoAnn Yukimura's model of "farming". Get 5 to 30 acres on the Northshore, cost is not important. In today's world on Kauai this will cost 1 to 10 million on the NS. Build House. Another 1 to 5 million. Plant sweet potatoes, taro, rambutan, get a couple of goats. Voila! You are a farmer and fit the perfect Kauai County FArm. No matter if you produce 50,000 dollars per year with a operating cost with insurance,water, TAXES and labor (the hippie at $50) at 80,000..30,000 loss. Of course you paid for the house and land by cash, so you don't need to capitalize the investment.<br />Farming is beautiful for the beautiful people, washed or unwashed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-49434775591702936972015-06-23T00:20:16.460-10:002015-06-23T00:20:16.460-10:00RE incentives for realtors.....I'm not familia...RE incentives for realtors.....I'm not familiar with Kauai realtors and their agenda but I am very familiar with Maui's SHAKA movement leader Realasnake Mark Sheehan, who now calls himself an organic farmer.<br /><br />Someone should look into whether any of these "organic farms" are profitable. And how they manage their weeds and insect pests, among other things. <br /><br />Hey, anyone with enough money can buy an expensive Hawaii property, hire someone to plant some fruit trees and keep a garden, or form a 501 (c)(3) "Foundation" and get grants. Or, like many here, label yourself an organic farm and get free farm laborers in the form of idealistic visiting volunteer WWOOFers who you house in illegal makeshift shacks on the farm (in violation of building codes, worker protection laws, EPA and DOH cesspool rules, etc.). And then claim that organic farming is a viable option in Hawaii and can replace conventional farmers or those nasty corporate farmers who must be breaking some law that we'll invent with enough fear-mongering fabrications and political pressure. <br /><br />Yes, organic farmer-Realtors can be anti-farmers marketing to wealthy mainland property investors looking for garden utopias without the annoying smells, noise, dust, smoke, pesticides, or other impacts from neighbors growing food and other agricultural products. <br /><br />Maui is choosing to replace its locals with these folks. Sounds like Kauai is too.<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-49051573235084806732015-06-22T22:52:34.014-10:002015-06-22T22:52:34.014-10:00You know, it's really getting a little old hea...<br />You know, it's really getting a little old hearing that locals are jealous of all the rich mainland Haoles who have taken over the North Shore with their TVRs and huge monster houses. Since when do we want what they have? On the other hand, they certainly wanted what WE had!<br />Oh ya... Fo sho; <br />We're jealous of a bunch of douche bags!<br /><br />Where's the aloha?<br />Aloha yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30629128089505413112015-06-22T19:02:55.521-10:002015-06-22T19:02:55.521-10:0012:40 "And there's no real courage that I...12:40 "And there's no real courage that I can see in giving anonymous comments to a newspaper." And it takes no courage to post anonymously on this blog. The vast majority of us commenters live in a climate of fear. Do you think this fear is justified?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-85206352878599108312015-06-22T16:54:39.076-10:002015-06-22T16:54:39.076-10:00private so called security hired to so called patr...private so called security hired to so called patrol kauapea beach always amazed us all born and raised here. Michelle hughes sought to keep her beach private from anyone other than her cronies and guests. didn't happen. the skinny filipino guy couldn't do jack and was fond of approaching only topless mainland women, occasional crack head kid camping alone...he never went near the gay guys frolicking on 3rd beach plus he loved to throw his cigarette butts on our shoreline. Now he's exclusive behind seacliff gate coercing everyone. Private security at hanalei? jeez, what brains to imagine that scenario playing out? for $12/hour? who would ever consider plus no respect from anyone mainland/local others...<br />Leave Norman alone...hes reaping millions and all others are jealous regardless of his conniving east coast roots, trust fund money, slimy persona, doesn't give a damn self righteous flair and disconnect. it is what it is. karma comes Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-31001303802137946122015-06-22T15:40:19.337-10:002015-06-22T15:40:19.337-10:002:07 Lighten up. 2:07 Lighten up. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-42396563013125685792015-06-22T14:55:28.429-10:002015-06-22T14:55:28.429-10:00What freedom of speech issue is at stake on a priv...What freedom of speech issue is at stake on a private, non-government website? The constitutionally protected right to smirk at Neal Norman's supposed personal hygiene? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-5340453540564623072015-06-22T14:25:09.879-10:002015-06-22T14:25:09.879-10:00It's only slander/libel if it's false and ...It's only slander/libel if it's false and harms someone's reputation. Otherwise there's a freedom of speech issue, and believe me I withhold a lot of libelous comments. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.com