tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post6803826611482375175..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Common NarcissismJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-69815662745691959152015-09-16T09:04:30.045-10:002015-09-16T09:04:30.045-10:00Yes, I know that some cattle ranchers were displac...Yes, I know that some cattle ranchers were displaced, but were they selling their cattle locally and paying GET? Or were they shipping them to the mainland for finishing and slaughter? And did they fold, or did they relocate? I was told one bull operation moved to Maui; was it paying GET on semen? As for large local grass fed cattle operations trying to gain access to land, the seed companies recently relinquished significant blocks of acreage that they aren't using, and they have other land available for sub-leases. Thousands of acres are fallow on this island. Surely there's plenty for the cattle ranchers, and unless slaughterhouse capacity is substantially expanded on Kauai, they aren't going to be selling their meat locally and paying GET, either.<br /><br />Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-9309818140073176482015-09-16T08:51:59.116-10:002015-09-16T08:51:59.116-10:00Joan you are wrong on this part. Check with the c...Joan you are wrong on this part. Check with the cattle ranchers. First some of them have in fact been displaced and lost their Grove Farm leases to the agrochemical companies. Secondly there are large local grass fed cattle operations trying to gain access to these lands that are locked up by these companies. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-76550859376019582742015-09-16T08:01:18.105-10:002015-09-16T08:01:18.105-10:00@6:04 and 7:54 -- What difference does it make whe...@6:04 and 7:54 -- What difference does it make when there are no farmers available to work the land — not even 1/4 of it — that the seed companies are leasing? You're acting like they're displacing tax revenue-generating farmers, and they aren't. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-70500415959863133122015-09-16T07:54:30.365-10:002015-09-16T07:54:30.365-10:00Hawaii law says that the general excise tax is pai...Hawaii law says that the general excise tax is paid by the seller of goods and services. The chemical cartels on Kauai do research and send off their seeds to the continent for further growth and research. They sell nothing in Hawaii and thus pay no general excise tax in Hawaii. When the companies buy their pesticides in Hawaii, the seller of those pesticides is required to pay GET on those sales, and like all sellers is allowed to pass on <br />to the buyer that cost. But the chemical companies themselves do not pay GET on their operations as opposed to a conventional farm growing crops for food that is sold locally, who would in fact pay GET when they sold those crops locally. So it is not true that they pay more "because they are bigger". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-82266550948822789452015-09-15T21:57:42.604-10:002015-09-15T21:57:42.604-10:00You're way off. All farms pay property and ex...You're way off. All farms pay property and excise taxes. Seed farms pay more because they're bigger. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-83645107745373612572015-09-15T18:04:38.260-10:002015-09-15T18:04:38.260-10:00As if the chemical cartel generates tax revenue. ...As if the chemical cartel generates tax revenue. Not! It is all a scam. These large companies generate far less in tax revenue than if even 1/4 of the land was leased to farmers who grew stuff to actually eat. So please don't talk about tax revenue because there is none. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-27083004709288068342015-09-15T12:46:39.886-10:002015-09-15T12:46:39.886-10:00“the common sense business approach that says Hawa...“the common sense business approach that says Hawaii should go after niche organic markets?”<br /><br />You’ve got to be kidding me!!! Hooser The Loser who couldn’t manage a business himself and had to find a job in government because of it, thinks he knows what a “business approach” is? “niche organic markets” ??? Ya, which would generate all sorts of tax revenue. [NOT!!!] You know "tax revenue"......that stuff that Hooser collected but never paid to the government preferring instead to pocket it like the petty thief he is. Thanks for your input, Gary!!! <br />Manuahihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10935756151568533081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-56277766057264602902015-09-15T12:03:00.225-10:002015-09-15T12:03:00.225-10:0011:40am. Wow you one angry dude. Sounds like you ...11:40am. Wow you one angry dude. Sounds like you don't get enough people paying attention to you. Sounds like the little dog syndrome. Suck it up dude and know that you really are a powerless nobody relegated to the anonymous comment section and will never get front row seats, let alone be allowed on the field. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-7364325065895884062015-09-15T11:56:04.888-10:002015-09-15T11:56:04.888-10:00At the center of Gary's world is, drumroll, Ga...At the center of Gary's world is, drumroll, Gary- like a fat poisonous spider pulling the strands of his nasty web manufactured by PANNA, CFS, Greenpeace and some other organizations reaping the fundraising benefits from scaring people who don't know better or are too lazy to do some work of their own. What have his machinations given us? 2491, the keystone of his anti ag, anti corporation, anti science, offensive to the law and deceitful view of how things should be. His vindictive anti ag tax bill (with Bynum thankfully gone from the political scene) and other maneuvering from his HAPA lair are an insult those of us who did not vote for him. And that's most of us who voted. We need to remember and redouble the effort next year to send him to Progressive Activist Valhalla, wherever that may be. Enough is way too much. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-59204085524567788242015-09-15T11:42:31.669-10:002015-09-15T11:42:31.669-10:00Thank you, Ms Joan. You right real good.Thank you, Ms Joan. You right real good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-39028292514309250402015-09-15T11:40:24.553-10:002015-09-15T11:40:24.553-10:00Meanwhile back at the ranch, those of us who have ...Meanwhile back at the ranch, those of us who have known Gary since he was a slender guy, using harsh chemicals cleaning carpets and selling high end real estate, are surprised that he has lasted this long. It is a little tiring.<br />And for Da Hoos to cry about the former AG Bronster is a ricecooking hoot. She was the very same attorney who represented Gary's BFF Fistee Timmy Bynum in his rape of Kauai tax payer....which Gary supported most strenuously. Maybe Gary and Timmy are going to be pardners in the Marrywanna clinics, using Timmy's big buck bonanza granted by Gary.<br />And with a continuous stream of new voters and a large following of rich Realtors, Gary has found a permanent spot in politics. Money and fame has been everything to Gary.<br />I just hope our current elected officials are taking notice of the demographic changes on this island. Soon the wealthy new comers will control local politics.<br />Hard for beleeb, that Da Hoos for all of his whining that he really should be considered a "local", that he consistently works against local values, families and jobs.<br />His impact on the local/haole mystery has created a greater divide. And then with Baby Hoos, whining in Daddy Hoos' footsteps there may be a couple of Hoos' in office. Baby Hoos is challenged a bit by lack of intrinsic intellect, but Daddy is training him in canned political speak.<br />Gary, Tim, JoAnn, Mason and of course the real grease in the Anti-Ag gaggle, Jay Furfaro have set BACK any chance for home rule in Land and Water use. Kauai was solid in the belief that Water and Land uses should be at the County level, now there is little chance that a home rule voice will be raised.<br />Just think if Kauai had home rule, Ag on the island would be dead. The large land holders would be pertneer bankrupt with the loss of land lease revenue and the lands would be sold. And then with the Timmy (former Ag estate owner), Da Hoos (former Land developer), JoAnn (the Kalihiwai Ag CPR Queen), Mason (who wouldn't know an Ag lot from a Condo) and Jay (I am really a tough guy from west Oahu and who follows the big bucks) the big lands would be chopped up and voila! Ag would really be dead.<br /> <br />So the State will hold all Water rights and Land use in her hands for ever. RIP Home Rule. <br />And Mel, the hard working silent locals just go to work every day and wonder, "when in the f*cking world" will the County allow some homes to be built for the families? The last Sub-D for local families on the eastside was built over 30 years ago. And we don't need JoAnn's goal, apartment houses...we need single family homes with a yard to put in a tree or two and a little garden. <br />Shame on all of these political people and especially the BS new Planning Director who is intent on stopping ALL local housing. <br />Our leaders have forgotten the people.<br />Is there no leader for the people?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-58471218544029296862015-09-15T09:38:38.781-10:002015-09-15T09:38:38.781-10:00You got it Joan...once again!!!!
Spotted Kauai...You got it Joan...once again!!!!<br /><br />Spotted Kauai's GMO Reaper Geoff Morris at the airport this morning; likely headed to the Big Island to harass the nation's agricultural heads. SHAME.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-29839752624708435112015-09-15T09:10:25.946-10:002015-09-15T09:10:25.946-10:00After a while, it gets tiring to have to counter t...After a while, it gets tiring to have to counter the same old anti-GMO dogma again and again. You're right that Gary Hooser has been responsible for significant damage to the community fabric of Kauai, all the while without ever gathering base information that might have made his legislation more informed. It's a shame.Allan Parachinihttp://www.apartfurniture.comnoreply@blogger.com