tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post7188961255407891075..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: No WorriesJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-40558829691174566912009-01-09T21:47:00.000-10:002009-01-09T21:47:00.000-10:00"Why do you live in Hawaii when you can get a..."Why do you live in Hawaii when you can get all of that and then some on the continent? Why do you have to impose your mainland values on our unique culture & lifestyle? Face it. The history and the cultural make up of Hawaii is a far cry from any other state on the continent and kanaka will resist the continued mainlandnization and militarization of our aina. Your attitude doesn't belong here."<BR/><BR/>-- im going to guess the climate / weather / topography are part of the reason (but i think you knew that). i am curious tho as to what "values" are being imposed and how is that being done such that it is a given groups fault. i suspect that economic competition is the root driver in a number of problems. gentrification is real, but i am at a loss as to how to mitigate it legally without fruitlessly trying to suspend freedom of trade, exchange, british common law concepts of property rights, and freedom of mobility. it seems more than just a matter of attitude. i would suggest the problems you identify and the concerns you have would still exist even if the groups you cite as creating such problems largely shared your sense of proper personal values and attitude. its economics, in my viewAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-80954031947058031522009-01-09T21:39:00.000-10:002009-01-09T21:39:00.000-10:00Lots of places have nice weather.Lots of places have nice weather.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30216633320953681532009-01-09T21:27:00.000-10:002009-01-09T21:27:00.000-10:00I like the weather. That's enough.Better than CA ...I like the weather. That's enough.<BR/><BR/>Better than CA or FL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-3285602787349593572009-01-09T18:07:00.000-10:002009-01-09T18:07:00.000-10:00It's not your island. It's the Big Island ...It's not your island. It's the Big Island of the State of Hawaii of the USA.<BR/><BR/>You're just fortunate to live here but, unless you have some fee-simple land, you don't own any of it.<BR/><BR/>I'm pro HSF, pro Mil, pro mainlandization of the BI.<BR/><BR/>Why do you live in Hawaii when you can get all of that and then some on the continent? Why do you have to impose your mainland values on our unique culture & lifestyle? Face it. The history and the cultural make up of Hawaii is a far cry from any other state on the continent and kanaka will resist the continued mainlandnization and militarization of our aina. Your attitude doesn't belong here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-8285008591630737262009-01-09T14:12:00.000-10:002009-01-09T14:12:00.000-10:00"If you blase people could just eat all this crap ..."If you blase people could just eat all this crap yourselves and get if off my island and never come back, don't even dream of bringing your happy SF here or your complacency and lack of aloha for our aina, hey, we will do just fine without yall, your military, your opala, your empire, and your doomed future."<BR/><BR/>-- deal. give give back the cell phones, trucks, infrastructure, social security payments, jobs, etc and whatever other USA trappings were brought here. <BR/><BR/>you can keep the pot tho, and the missionariesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-48942886001696831532009-01-09T14:03:00.000-10:002009-01-09T14:03:00.000-10:00It's not your island. It's the Big Island of the ...It's not your island. It's the Big Island of the State of Hawaii of the USA.<BR/><BR/>You're just fortunate to live here but, unless you have some fee-simple land, you don't own any of it.<BR/><BR/>I'm pro HSF, pro Mil, pro mainlandization of the BI.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-37002576402159212312009-01-09T13:43:00.000-10:002009-01-09T13:43:00.000-10:00it will be bringing in a lot of destructive equipm...<EM> it will be bringing in a lot of destructive equipment to our moku that will ruin more and more land. </EM><BR/><BR/>Mahalo for reminding folks of yet another serious major impact -- and one I don't recall seeing addressed in the EIS.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-77605495485997788992009-01-09T13:24:00.000-10:002009-01-09T13:24:00.000-10:00Aloha kakou, the situation on the Big Island, Moku...Aloha kakou, the situation on the Big Island, Moku o Keawe, is different from Kauai. Pohakuloa is in the heart of our moku, over 100,000 acres, half of it already ruined by cluster bombs and probably alot more DU than the Army wants to admit. The Strykers will have an expensive carwash to remove the radioactive dirt before shipping out on the wholesome family Stupidferry. Just don't let your kiddees poke their haids in the cannon barrels, which will be hot stuff after deployment in Iraq. DU weapons burn in the gun barrels, they are so pyrophoric. Check out the opening minute of the film, "Blowing in the Wind" to see a DU tank penetrator burning as it flies at over 2000 miles per hours. The Army undoubtedly has shot alot of that stuff up at Pohakuloa over the decades but they are not even looking for it. This is like the Vieques coverup.<BR/> You funny people who think the SF is not deadly serious are clueless, it will be bringing in a lot of destructive equipment to our moku that will ruin more and more land. The cluster bombs litter so much expanse already and they want to double the live fire with the Strykers. If you blase people could just eat all this crap yourselves and get if off my island and never come back, don't even dream of bringing your happy SF here or your complacency and lack of aloha for our aina, hey, we will do just fine without yall, your military, your opala, your empire, and your doomed future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-25030275017564622372009-01-09T10:41:00.000-10:002009-01-09T10:41:00.000-10:00Excellent review Joan!Ken Stokes also had a good r...Excellent review Joan!<BR/><BR/>Ken Stokes also had a good review today http://kauaian.net/blog/?p=1387<BR/><BR/>Joan, you mention the standard techniques employed in an EIS, and that basically they assume environmental degredation and decline. <BR/><BR/>That may be something that is acceptable in a big city, but creaping environmental degredation is NOT acceptable on a unique environmental island like Kauai whose whole identity including for economic purposes is dependent upon the environment being maintained at an exquisite level like few other places in the world.<BR/><BR/>That's what people here and visitors from around the world want Kauai to be. They don't want Kauai to fall into creeping environmental degredation as is implicitly accepted by the Act 2 DOT/Belt Collins pseudo-'EIS'.<BR/><BR/>Aloha, BradMauibradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16759237357642699345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38914994921109647072009-01-09T01:15:00.000-10:002009-01-09T01:15:00.000-10:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-66932806853716497302009-01-09T00:15:00.000-10:002009-01-09T00:15:00.000-10:00you are not allowed to make those points as anonym...you are not allowed to make those points as anonymous, it upsets themAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-20235699733042333592009-01-08T23:32:00.000-10:002009-01-08T23:32:00.000-10:00An uneconomic service that is unlikely to survive ...An uneconomic service that is unlikely to survive the recession anyway. Big flap over not much.<BR/><BR/>This has always been about keeping folks from Oahu from coming over and crowding the surfing/fishing spots. The rest of these "significant impacts" are really not that significant. <BR/><BR/>A hundred cars coming into Lihue is less of an impact than the High School letting out. If invasive species are a big issue, make inspections mandatory. The barges are already moving anything you want with minimal inspections.<BR/><BR/>Air pollution in the port? The cars idling are probably a bigger effect. The airport is probably 10X as bad. Nevermind the VOG.<BR/><BR/>Stop pretending this just wasn't anti-development. At least then we could have an honest debate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-54549920748076761502009-01-08T23:16:00.000-10:002009-01-08T23:16:00.000-10:00funny how this thing takes attention away from the...funny how this thing takes attention away from the real problems in the countyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-86083458235472095412009-01-08T22:09:00.000-10:002009-01-08T22:09:00.000-10:00It all sounds reasonable to me. But, then, I'm a ...It all sounds reasonable to me. But, then, I'm a consultant also.<BR/><BR/>No service too small, no invoice to large.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com