tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post8238505588682753996..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: March OnJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-64968164788596694882017-01-26T16:46:12.233-10:002017-01-26T16:46:12.233-10:00@9:08 pm Bradley:
Appreciate your ag-related comm...@9:08 pm Bradley:<br /><br />Appreciate your ag-related comments here but let's dig into some of the many canards you raise concerning the inauguration:<br />First, the DC police do not report to Obama and he did not order them to stand down and block access. In fact, some of the Inauguration Day protesters are now facing felony riot charges of the type not used in more than three decades, including non-violent journalists and NLG legal observers who were "kettled" by law enforcement and charged indiscriminately. And from what I have observed about Trump's supporters, I doubt they are shrinking violets who would've been turned back by protesters blocking access to the national mall. Let's be honest though, that just didn't happen.<br /><br />Second, Trump did not do a nationwide thank you tour, he did a "victory tour" of only states he won. Not a good look for a guy who says he is going to unite the country. Oh, and Trump did not pay for that out of his pocket, his campaign paid for it. If you haven't noticed, Trump is not in the habit of paying for things out of his own pocket. Again, I know we are in an era of alternative facts, but let's be honest, it just didn't happen.<br /><br />Third, anonymous donors did not pay for millions of women and others around the country and globe to rally anymore than anonymous donors paid for people to take time off and attend Trump rallies. Let's be honest...<br /><br />Finally, whether the Women's March represents the germination of a real movement (like the Tea Party did in 2009, which many Democrats lived to regret scoffing at), remains to be seen, but it can't be doubted that it represented a sign that many, probably most, American people are extremely anxious about Trump will not quietly surrender their rights and identities in the Trump era.<br /><br />Again, appreciate your comments on farming but couldn't disagree with you more on this issue. Happy for a respectful dialogue though.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-12799566308804260322017-01-25T19:16:30.232-10:002017-01-25T19:16:30.232-10:00I knew there was a reason for the small crowd othe...I knew there was a reason for the small crowd other than Trump's sexism, racism, nepotism, cronyism and all around buffoonery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-28318872982155064682017-01-25T05:37:48.657-10:002017-01-25T05:37:48.657-10:00Echo chambers can happen anywhere. You're drea...Echo chambers can happen anywhere. You're dreaming if you think they evaporate in the streets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-24479707141204244042017-01-24T23:01:00.569-10:002017-01-24T23:01:00.569-10:00Radical inclusivity can't happen online. It ca...Radical inclusivity can't happen online. It can happen only face to face. In the street. With thousands, or millions, of others. Where the echo chamber evaporates. Echo chambers thrive online, not in the streets. It's not your sisters that need to beware of the echo chamber.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-76890176850555252462017-01-24T21:08:52.403-10:002017-01-24T21:08:52.403-10:00First of all, Obama directly commanded the DC acti...First of all, Obama directly commanded the DC acting chief of police to stand down against DC protestors blocking the entrances to the inauguration. Thousands of Trump supporters were turned away at 5 of the 12 gates. Second of all, anonymous donor(s) put up the money for the women Marchers to travel to DC, and paid their hotels bills. Third, the inauguration had the 2nd highest Nielsen ratings since Regan in 1982 with 36 million views. Working people have bills to pay because real wages have declined under Obama. Fourth, Trump did a nation wide thank you tour after the election. Hundred's of thousands of people attended those private events. He paid for the venue out of pocket so he could throw out disrespectful protestors. Finally, 94% of the DC echo chamber voted for Hillary, so it's unrealistic to expect much local attendance for the Presidential inauguration. <br /><br />On a side note, <a href="www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUo8-guaeMQ" rel="nofollow">here</a> is a private video of a non Trump supporter (a black cop no less) attending one of those rallies. The protestors inside, and outside, that rally turned him away form the Democratic party. Trumps people and their messages made a huge impact as well. Having watched the "PUSSY RALLEY" speeches, can you honestly admit they helped advance the Democratic Party heading into the next election? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11553534513992452534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-57650646729231306462017-01-24T14:29:03.913-10:002017-01-24T14:29:03.913-10:00The link:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/24/o...The link:<br /><br />https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/24/opinion/trumps-visit-offends-fallen-cia-mans-daughter.html<br /><br />Robin Clarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30472333146952388502017-01-24T14:00:57.915-10:002017-01-24T14:00:57.915-10:00You can be quite sure that Trump noticed that more...You can be quite sure that Trump noticed that more people showed up for the march than were at the inauguration. Sad! Whether his brain can process the reason, or whether he even cares is an open question.<br /><br />The man's capacity to offend seems to show no bounds: NYT letter today, "Trump's Visit Offends Fallen C.I.A. Man's Daughter." Written by wife. Very sad!Robin Clarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-21257549757001560662017-01-24T13:45:57.773-10:002017-01-24T13:45:57.773-10:00ALOHA Joan I suppose you will not be supporting th...ALOHA Joan I suppose you will not be supporting the Impeach Trump March on March 4. We are VERY Inclusive. We will take pro lifers, Trump Supporters with regrets. Yup. Anyone. As long as you carry an "IMPEACH TRUMP ' sign we welcome you Joan. Open arms roll out red carpet kine welcome. See you there!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-84680562439679486102017-01-24T13:42:45.219-10:002017-01-24T13:42:45.219-10:00@ 8:12 Nebraska has a non-partisan Unicameral syst...@ 8:12 Nebraska has a non-partisan Unicameral system. Our division comes from Rural vs Urban interest. There still can be divisiveness without political parties. To a large extent, the same applies the last presidential election. Hillary won the urban areas, and Trump won the rural areas. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11553534513992452534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-79702228570049165082017-01-24T08:12:48.755-10:002017-01-24T08:12:48.755-10:00" The worst thing we could do to our nation i..." The worst thing we could do to our nation is create a two party system. This is where segregation and divisiveness starts" , Thomas Jefferson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11531627905802540692017-01-24T06:41:09.616-10:002017-01-24T06:41:09.616-10:00So if woman live longer than men, make financial d...So if woman live longer than men, make financial decisions of 85% of all money spent on retail (control the wealth, have well more than all college degrees and control the happiness of most men..............what's the problem?<br />On another note, at least Trump will instill Law and Order and lock up the men that do use their physical power against men. Which is way more than Justin Kollar (A marcher) does.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-49456609235593210582017-01-23T21:58:09.883-10:002017-01-23T21:58:09.883-10:00Trump is a sour faced clown. Just hope Puppet Mast...Trump is a sour faced clown. Just hope Puppet Master Putin can keep Bozo's finger away from the buttons. Kill us slowly with your deregulation but please don't blow up the planet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-447429211770784772017-01-23T20:32:35.422-10:002017-01-23T20:32:35.422-10:00I voted for HR but I'm giving the Donald a cha...I voted for HR but I'm giving the Donald a chance.<br />Glad he's pulling back on globalization. Its creating what we're seeing here on Kauai. A society of two types: Billionaires and poor crap eaters. Not much in between happening with globalization. Wishing Trump luck bringing back a middle class. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-6216818415847227492017-01-23T20:19:06.394-10:002017-01-23T20:19:06.394-10:00People resist science due to religion People resist science due to religion Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-56608430040348253662017-01-23T18:40:56.599-10:002017-01-23T18:40:56.599-10:00Yes and when science gets it wrong; it keeps testi...Yes and when science gets it wrong; it keeps testing and discovering evidence to get it right. That's the beautiful thing about science. It's open minded unlike you apparently Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-7232227077890144552017-01-23T16:38:56.494-10:002017-01-23T16:38:56.494-10:00STFU! Science has been proven wrong infinite times...STFU! Science has been proven wrong infinite times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88824830567482775562017-01-23T13:02:59.604-10:002017-01-23T13:02:59.604-10:00Thank you for another beautifully written piece, J...Thank you for another beautifully written piece, Joan. Your words of truth have the power to break open the echo chambers and shatter the halls of mirrors. Kudos!<br />Dawsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11187230133672330092017-01-23T12:00:50.216-10:002017-01-23T12:00:50.216-10:00*training wheels that is*training wheels that isAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-955352500579337152017-01-23T11:49:42.590-10:002017-01-23T11:49:42.590-10:00I can't stand Donald Trump but I think he is a...I can't stand Donald Trump but I think he is absolutely right that we need a disruptor and that D.C. has completely lost touch with the people they serve. If he could be a decent human being with a little bit of self control I might even feel optimistic right now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-7617457583904898492017-01-23T09:57:15.775-10:002017-01-23T09:57:15.775-10:00Joan, thanks again for another thoughtful piece. I...Joan, thanks again for another thoughtful piece. I have to consciously work to not respond in kind when I am confronted by what I perceive as attacking or pigeonholing or dismissive rhetoric. It reminds me of the scene from the movie "An Everlasting Piece" where a Northern Irish Catholic said it requires a gesture (of reaching out, offering the olive branch and seeking to understand) to move forward and past unproductive conflict. Very tough to do because I have to trust that someone at some point will respond in kind, and let go of my fear that my actions may be used against me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-71478360623161127682017-01-23T09:34:53.798-10:002017-01-23T09:34:53.798-10:00Trump has given lots of people many very good reas...Trump has given lots of people many very good reasons to be wary, if not outright alarmed by his rhetoric and actions even if he has only been President for a few days. You don't get to use trains wheels when you're POTUS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88076406788664868032017-01-23T09:33:40.858-10:002017-01-23T09:33:40.858-10:00Thank you, @9:26, for underscoring my points. We ...Thank you, @9:26, for underscoring my points. We can all feel your tolerance and love.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-37695588396338437182017-01-23T09:26:13.335-10:002017-01-23T09:26:13.335-10:00Good job calling out all of these one shot wonders...Good job calling out all of these one shot wonders who think they can change the world by carrying stupid signs and standing on the corners making noise. You are the truest and nastiest woman of them all. We love you Joan!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-90465965009994594372017-01-23T09:21:46.543-10:002017-01-23T09:21:46.543-10:00Well stated. The hypocrisy was the first thing i n...Well stated. The hypocrisy was the first thing i noticed. "We want to include all women's voices...unless we don't agree with them." What, exactly, was the point of the protests? It elicited a feeling or emotion but was that the point? I guess i just don't understand the sign waiving phenomenon. It produces a few car horn honks and 24-48 hours of news coverage but then what? At what point do we actually give the President a chance to succeed? At what point do we accept the results of the election? At what point do we tone down the rhetoric and start doing what we can to heal the great divide in America? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30124946591874441892017-01-23T08:44:38.381-10:002017-01-23T08:44:38.381-10:00“What are these biases leading people to resist sc...<br />“What are these biases leading people to resist science? Where do they come from? How do they operate and what can be done about them?”<br /><br />I think they don't come from a distrust of science, but rather a fear of its imperfect implementation by us flawed humans. While the science may be perfect, we're certainly not. I think that this is why we fear nuclear energy. It requires humans to build, maintain and monitor something that is dangerous if mistakes are made. The history of man is loaded with mistakes. But we do learn from our mistakes (if we survive them) and if we are not free to experiment, then we cannot not achieve innovation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com