tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post8394529031276946231..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: This Is Not GoodJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-2809858134200036692009-05-18T15:28:00.000-10:002009-05-18T15:28:00.000-10:00The new septic systems are not the problem. It's a...The new septic systems are not the problem. It's all the old ones in that neighborhood with cesspools. The cesspools don't seperate out the solids into fiberglass holding tanks that can be pumped out. The cesspools drain everything straight down to the sandstone layer where it moves in a horizontal pattern out to the ocean.<br />All the new houses keep their crap on their property.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-18239179945425119922009-05-17T13:11:00.000-10:002009-05-17T13:11:00.000-10:00They must have forgot where they hid the secret, t...They must have forgot where they hid the secret, then, because they are doing nothing.<br /><br />Unless....THAT'S THE SECRET!!!....They elect to wait for Pele the Pono to give Bresca the "bono".<br /><br />Of course, doing nothing, or highly ineffectual things, isn't such a secret to hawaiians, after all...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-18284633058569289282009-05-16T20:17:00.000-10:002009-05-16T20:17:00.000-10:00YEH ITʻS A SECRET.YEH ITʻS A SECRET.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-42928405194239883172009-05-16T19:26:00.000-10:002009-05-16T19:26:00.000-10:00Ok here's a question for the bozoid who imagines t...Ok here's a question for the bozoid who imagines the burial councils have all this secret power, what do you think it is they can do?<br /><br />Oh, nothing because it's a secret? Ya, well, just can the stupidity then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30079824410469115352009-05-16T17:25:00.000-10:002009-05-16T17:25:00.000-10:00"Again, I'm sure burial council members would give..."Again, I'm sure burial council members would give you the big FU."<br /><br />NO, I DONʻT THINK SO BECAUSE THATʻS A HAOLE THING.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-22313546562525836742009-05-16T17:21:00.000-10:002009-05-16T17:21:00.000-10:00"lacking the passion that could even kindle a cand..."lacking the passion that could even kindle a candle for the dead."<br /><br />THATʻS THE PROBLEM WITH THE BURIAL COUNCIL: THE MEMBERS. CLUELESS AND DONʻT CARE.<br /><br />THEYʻVE BEEN TOLD HOW MUCH POWER THEY REALLY HAVE BUT THEY ARE TIMID. SCARED TO STAND UP TO THE WHITE MAN. NEED SOME MORE PROACTIVE INDIVIDUALS.<br /><br />WELL, LIKE IT OR NOT, KAIULANI IS NOT SCARED.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-18895649813042988052009-05-16T13:28:00.000-10:002009-05-16T13:28:00.000-10:00"They struggled emotionally under their lack ..."They struggled emotionally under their lack of power to act. They knew the limitations of their powers and suffered emotionally because of it."<br /><br />Don't worry. The political power of Joe, the real estate industry, the tourist industry and state & local government is enough to buy plenty of pain for everyone. <br /><br /><br />"I'm sure burial council members would give you the big FU."<br /><br />I'm sure Burial Council members don't give FU -- big or otherwise -- to anyone.Dawsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38111284896310966312009-05-16T08:08:00.000-10:002009-05-16T08:08:00.000-10:00Daw:"the council created to protect them floats in...Daw:"the council created to protect them floats in ethical limbo, devoid of power and purpose"<br /><br />Well, not completely devoid of purpose. It has an advisory role. That was the whole point of this argument, to counter some ding-a-ling who imagined the burial councils wield some secret stash of power.<br /><br />Daw: "There are people who don't make a move without the permission of the political system that pulls their strings"<br /><br />Blah blah blah. Again, I'm sure burial council members would give you the big FU. They struggled emotionally under their lack of power to act. They knew the limitations of their powers and suffered emotionally because of it. So FU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-1321635933492441352009-05-15T22:44:00.000-10:002009-05-15T22:44:00.000-10:00"There are people who give their time and energy s..."There are people who give their time and energy serving the community, and then there are people who sit around complaining about them on blogs."<br /><br />There are people who don't make a move without the permission of the political system that pulls their strings, and there are people who sit around on blogs defending them.Dawsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88612221594352540222009-05-15T22:39:00.000-10:002009-05-15T22:39:00.000-10:00The ethnic makeup of the Burial Council currently ...The ethnic makeup of the Burial Council currently is irrelevant. <br /><br />The proof is a thousand tons of concrete squatting on the bones of Hawaiian ancestors, while the council created to protect them floats in ethical limbo, devoid of power and purpose -- lacking the passion that could even kindle a candle for the dead.Dawsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-89378415325993659192009-05-15T22:07:00.000-10:002009-05-15T22:07:00.000-10:00Yes, the burial councils are supposed to be loaded...Yes, the burial councils are supposed to be loaded with Hawaiians. But Dawson is so busy regurgitating his ethnic studies cant about the voicelessness of Hawaiians that he entirely misses that point. <br /><br />How is it so evident they don't know their (purely advisory) duties?<br /><br />Again, I imagine a burial council member would tell you who are ignorantly saying they don't know their powers to go jump in the lake. There are people who give their time and energy serving the community, and then there are people who sit around complaining about them on blogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-50792370625142547852009-05-15T20:12:00.000-10:002009-05-15T20:12:00.000-10:00Dawson publishes an articulate argument. Thank yo...Dawson publishes an articulate argument. Thank you.<br /><br />The burial council is SUPPOSED to be loaded with Hawaiians..and it is. However, the argument is whether they know their duties or not. In this case, it is evident that they do not. Hopefully this will be rectified and the Council will take some responsibility, for once, for their decisions. Enough blame game, let's put them on record and hear their ideas, as intended.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-77589115644630438712009-05-15T17:34:00.000-10:002009-05-15T17:34:00.000-10:00Dawson, you're so full of it. The burial council i...Dawson, you're so full of it. The burial council is loaded with Hawaiians!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-57019768038026400662009-05-15T17:20:00.000-10:002009-05-15T17:20:00.000-10:00"There are people who give their time and energy s..."There are people who give their time and energy serving the community, and then there are people who sit around complaining about them on blogs."<br /><br />Which is really just another way to say that people who don't do the work don't have a voice to complain about the people who do.<br /><br />It's like saying if you don't design cars, you can't complain about their safety. If you're not a stockbroker, you can't complain about Wall Street swindles. If you don't work for Congress, you can't complain about government.<br /><br />It's another of those bogus arguments that really says "you don't deserve a voice."<br /><br />Funny how that's exactly what the Hawaiians have been hearing for generations.Dawsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-60922457502709133972009-05-15T15:47:00.000-10:002009-05-15T15:47:00.000-10:00I'm a "sit around complaining kind of guy", but th...I'm a "sit around complaining kind of guy", but that's just who I am, and these problems don't impact me...but I love to throw my 2 cents in where it's not (or marginally) wanted. I've got lots of time on my hands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-58773076854676038702009-05-15T13:54:00.000-10:002009-05-15T13:54:00.000-10:00I imagine a burial council member would tell whoev...I imagine a burial council member would tell whoever is ignorantly saying they don't know their powers to go jump in the lake. There are people who give their time and energy serving the community, and then there are people who sit around complaining about them on blogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-70560805800024711412009-05-15T13:45:00.000-10:002009-05-15T13:45:00.000-10:00"The problem may be that the burial council itself..."The problem may be that the burial council itself doesn't know its powers or what it's supposed to do."<br />You would think that after 10+ years on the council and working through how many cases they would know what their powers were.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-20260456478428221172009-05-15T13:35:00.000-10:002009-05-15T13:35:00.000-10:00That doesn't change the fact that their duties are...That doesn't change the fact that their duties are purely advisory. They get to decide to leave the burials or move them. After that it's out of their hands. If they decided to leave them, those burials could get built over. They can "advise" on how to deal with them, but they don't have the power to say what can or can't be built.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-22356425158231804072009-05-15T13:16:00.000-10:002009-05-15T13:16:00.000-10:00The burial council mandate seems pretty clear beca...The burial council mandate seems pretty clear because it's written in the law. The problem may be that the burial council itself doesn't know its powers or what it's supposed to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-84689898571648187162009-05-15T09:16:00.000-10:002009-05-15T09:16:00.000-10:00That person is "largely off".
I corrected your se...That person is "largely off".<br /><br />I corrected your sentence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-23310020736697516432009-05-15T09:09:00.000-10:002009-05-15T09:09:00.000-10:00"You'd get one unstable Hawaiian chick all up in y..."You'd get one unstable Hawaiian chick all up in your grill."<br /><br />-- that was pretty funny<br /><br />but cave, that person is largely "off limits" on this blog. though you can ID by name and location guys accused by third party hearsay of HRS violations (ie that man who kicked that kid off the river bank near his house)<br /><br />anyways, its prob wise to let that lady be; letting the beach tent protest play out seems the right move. local gov has better things to dodarwin_was_pretty_smarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12324633324529713961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-59025945497110251802009-05-15T08:22:00.000-10:002009-05-15T08:22:00.000-10:00it's tough to get unstable hawaiian chicks out of ...it's tough to get unstable hawaiian chicks out of your grill, especially when the sun dries them out. worse than bugs...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-7150623020583363602009-05-15T08:13:00.000-10:002009-05-15T08:13:00.000-10:00"I do know what will happen to you though. And you..."I do know what will happen to you though. And youʻre not going to like it."<br /><br />You'd get one unstable Hawaiian chick all up in your grill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-71065791049224868852009-05-14T19:57:00.000-10:002009-05-14T19:57:00.000-10:00You are wrong about that but I wonʻt elaborate. Th...<I>You are wrong about that but I wonʻt elaborate. Thereʻs too much information let loose for the wrong individuals to subvert.</I><BR><BR>Oooh, mysterious. Actually it's not that mysterious. It's not like it's the secret rights of the Freemasons or the Skull and Bones. You see, the powers of burial councils are clearly and not very mysteriously spelled out in very publicly available state law and they're not written in disappearing ink or jew blood or anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-33842077290090010382009-05-14T19:34:00.000-10:002009-05-14T19:34:00.000-10:00New septic system on the Makai side of the King ho...New septic system on the Makai side of the King house? Isn't there some kind of shoreline setback law? Just wondering....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com