tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post8641477405209672740..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Stifling OppositionJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-35666089844021479392009-03-03T21:35:00.000-10:002009-03-03T21:35:00.000-10:00Some time ago I read about a gmo rice engineered w...Some time ago I read about a gmo rice engineered with stiffer stalks so that less grain would be lost by being submerged in water.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-1352103563732466252009-03-03T17:39:00.000-10:002009-03-03T17:39:00.000-10:00"which coincidentally allows them to sell more che..."which coincidentally allows them to sell more chemicals....."<BR/><BR/>ya thats about my (novice) understanding too, as to much or most of what is commercially available today from those groups<BR/><BR/>personally, im pulling for the drought resistant GMs...get those to work, add good farming practices, some solar powered state-of-the-art drip irrigation...could help tons of people in africa <BR/><BR/>realistically tho, id be content with the corps just pushing the ball forward some on the r-n-d. unlike corn or soy, the africa-specific food stuffs are not real profitable for the corps, so who is to say if they will ever mess w/ them (the africa crops). NGO's would prob have to do some of the heavy lifting there<BR/><BR/><BR/>March 3, 2009 9:47 AM<BR/>March 3, 2009 12:11 PMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-55946570239279900132009-03-03T17:06:00.000-10:002009-03-03T17:06:00.000-10:00---so the gm people have been just taking the low ...---so the gm people have been just taking the low hanging fruit to date---<BR/><BR/>which coincidentally allows them to sell more chemicals.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-9297771574223364162009-03-03T16:40:00.000-10:002009-03-03T16:40:00.000-10:00Taro is a crop with such profound cultural signifi...Taro is a crop with such profound cultural significance that it is deserving of special recognition and special treatment.<BR/><BR/>I can see an opportunity for pollen drift issues: alien pollen fertilizes a feral kalo away from a regular farm lo'i, it seeds and the seed grows, and later someone collects a huli from the plant and plants it for commercial use. Now the alien DNA is in poi.<BR/><BR/>That might not be a bad thing from a health standpoint or it might be, but it could create an unacceptable cultural conflict.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-63638940826958096662009-03-03T13:36:00.000-10:002009-03-03T13:36:00.000-10:00Kauai ='s Dover Area School DistrictKauai ='s Dover Area School DistrictAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-27575905069442959102009-03-03T13:10:00.000-10:002009-03-03T13:10:00.000-10:00belief that humans descended from a veggieFunny. T...<I>belief that humans descended from a veggie</I><BR/><BR/>Funny. There could be a "Scopes Taro Trial."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-63376017995732470782009-03-03T12:55:00.000-10:002009-03-03T12:55:00.000-10:00Not to mention that the incredible belief that hum...Not to mention that the incredible belief that humans descended from a veggie is being used to hold up scientific endevor.<BR/><BR/>That's worse than the "sacred mountian" ploy to stifle astronomical development of Mauna Kea.<BR/><BR/>Please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-2721971311383946072009-03-03T12:11:00.000-10:002009-03-03T12:11:00.000-10:001. many of those papers i cite, among other things...1. many of those papers i cite, among other things, accurately note the current and potential "cons" of gm crops (and, no disrespect intended, do so far more accurately and rationally than 95% of the ~ "anti gm" people on kauai, for example). so that they are critical in part suggests, on its face, some degree of objectivity<BR/><BR/>2. i would imagine that it is pretty well known that not every single work product out of academia has a corporate sponsor. there are, for example, foundational underwriters (like the ford foundation), gov grant monies, and university general endowment funds. this is of course not to suggest the schools dont actively court and get big biz money<BR/><BR/>3. it reflects a certain something when a reader unilaterally rejects a given writing when it makes note of an item the reader does not agree with<BR/><BR/>4. but there are gm crops and r-n-d just a few miles from many people on kauai, so the heightened interest in the subject here is understandable. as such, it will be interesting to see the reaction (or lack thereof) when the local hospitals start doing allotta gene therapyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-78141666060694726632009-03-03T10:43:00.000-10:002009-03-03T10:43:00.000-10:00And who do you think is paying for the research be...And who do you think is paying for the research behind those "learned and objective academic papers?"Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-91269114854405044152009-03-03T09:47:00.000-10:002009-03-03T09:47:00.000-10:00"nearly all the existing studies on GMOs have been..."nearly all the existing studies on GMOs have been done by the industry"<BR/><BR/>-- cant say ive done a full accounting, but learned and objective academic papers on the subject are not hard to find <BR/><BR/>and it is interesting stuff. a casual review of some of them, for example, blows away claims such as:<BR/><BR/>"Not a single GM crop on the market is engineered for enhanced nutrition, increased yield potential, drought-tolerance, or other attractive traits touted by the biotech industry"<BR/><BR/>those same writings are also quick to point out that tweaking a plant gene here and there to fight off a given bug or not die from a given chemical is relatively easy (ergo why we see much of this)<BR/><BR/>but - messing with the plant to pump it full of vitamins, etc and give the plants all of these great qualities...that is very hard, you have to mess with scores of genes...it takes a lot of time, money etc<BR/><BR/>so the gm people have been just taking the low hanging fruit to dateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com