tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post8934144014501078548..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Austal a JHSV ContenderJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-33761091184379672682008-02-20T18:19:00.000-10:002008-02-20T18:19:00.000-10:00I was just thinking yesterday with the China twist...I was just thinking yesterday with the China twist, this whole big story would make a perfect plot for a Tom Clancy novel/movie. ;) Aloha, BradMauibradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16759237357642699345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-71859683072277176272008-02-20T13:32:00.000-10:002008-02-20T13:32:00.000-10:00Anonymous,HSF began to be proposed in 2005, Westpa...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>HSF began to be proposed in 2005, Westpac began its military lease in 2002. Incat began leasing a number of vessels to the U.S. military in 2001. HSF is the first of these types of vessels to be built in the U.S. and requiring its own sea trial, of which it is having difficulties with. The Chinese bought this type of technology from the Australians before 2004 and turned out their first attack fast catamaran in 2004. It is a complex interesting global story that I will continue following. Aloha, BradMauibradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16759237357642699345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-24890908353581599772008-02-01T23:52:00.000-10:002008-02-01T23:52:00.000-10:00Clarification:The Request for Proposals and Delive...Clarification:<BR/>The Request for Proposals and Delivery dates are also from the Navy; but, not a part of the Captain's presentation. That should have been the start of a new sentence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-82587137942599249122008-02-01T23:29:00.000-10:002008-02-01T23:29:00.000-10:00Navy Captain Patricia Sudal's September 13, 2006 p...Navy Captain Patricia Sudal's September 13, 2006 presentation on the JHSV Program referred to the 5+ year history (at that time), that the specs were approved by the Joint Requirements Oversight Council in November 2005, the sea trials were undertaken between 2001 and 2005 (yes, good ole Westpac and others), and a request for proposals was released in August 2007 with the lead ship to be delivered in 2010. It was over over over over before the first infamous run by the Hawaii Superferry and only the blinded by obsession Brad from Maui would now believe its not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-14363556702852183072008-02-01T14:10:00.000-10:002008-02-01T14:10:00.000-10:00Also, correct me if I am wrong, Joan, but isn't Au...Also, correct me if I am wrong, Joan, but isn't Austal still an investor in HSF. It is true they usually just build and sell or lease these vessels, but this one, the HSF, I believe they are still a part owner in. That alone makes it different than their other ships. There is a reasons for that. Aloha, BradAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-73787287273367321332008-02-01T12:02:00.000-10:002008-02-01T12:02:00.000-10:00Dear not a member of the choir, First, it's Austal...Dear not a member of the choir, First, it's Austal, not Austral. Question #1: the Superferry and Westpac Express were singled out because they have the design specs the Navy is looking for with the JHSV. I couldn't find any reference in the magazine you cite, but Austal couldn't have been competing for the JHSV in 2002 because the program specs weren't developed until 2005. Question #2: I'm not contending that they're going to 'share' anything with former customers or substitute any ships, but that they are using HSF as a prototype to test design attributes that could help Austal win the JHSV contract, with subsequent benefits for Lehman and his gang. #3 See #2 and/or read Brad's comment.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-16180119272519275372008-02-01T08:42:00.000-10:002008-02-01T08:42:00.000-10:00How does it relate?These are sea trials for their ...How does it relate?<BR/><BR/>These are sea trials for their American built version of their design...<BR/><BR/>...presented to the public here as only a commercial enterprise...<BR/><BR/>...the fuel consumption and propulsion design of which makes it unlikely that this is only a "going concern" commercial enterprise...<BR/><BR/>...for which the public and state here was lobbied outside of the prior established legal channels to publicly finance.<BR/><BR/>The key thing is this design will have not been for a "going concern" commercial enterprise that the public here partly financed.<BR/><BR/>Plus, these ships usually have their own loading ramps and yet the state had built a fundamentally flawed barge ramp design for millions of dollars.<BR/><BR/>This whole situation was misrepresented to the public here.<BR/><BR/>Like I have said, it would be better to just tell it to the people straight.<BR/><BR/>Aloha, BradAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-68973740241478163972008-01-31T23:05:00.000-10:002008-01-31T23:05:00.000-10:00From: not a member of the choir,The following webs...From: not a member of the choir,<BR/>The following website:<BR/>http://www.austal.com/go/product-information/commercial-products/ferries---vehicle-passenger<BR/>displays 29 high speed catamaran ferries and one trimaran that have been delivered by Austral since 1996, and 8 that are under construction. They all have the proprietary Austral technology used for the Superferry. <BR/>Question #1 is Why single out two of these for some kind of separate significance based on their similar design? <BR/>The news about Austral competing for the US Navy JHSV was in the magazine Australian Financial Review in August 2002 prior to any Superferry contract or hull.<BR/>Question #2 is Why does an update on this lengthy process have any significance for ships they no longer own.<BR/>Every Naval contract is for brand new ships built to their specifications. If Austral gets the contract, they can't "share" it with one of their former customers or substitiute other ships they've built for others.<BR/>Question #3 is What does Austral's potential future Navy business have to do with Superferry? That answer is "nothing."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com