tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post1032612195910265725..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Cry Me a RiverJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-45637947254965810802015-09-01T11:21:34.281-10:002015-09-01T11:21:34.281-10:00Aloha Joan,
This is Will Leonard. So you know we...Aloha Joan,<br /><br />This is Will Leonard. So you know we did witness a complete diversion with multiple witness's and pictures at the spot where the north fork and the first man made ditch can divert to south fork. When I gave that interview I was contacted by GI and had limited information at the time and told the reporter that. There was a large back hoe right near diversion. We witnessed the same thing during Tropic Thunder filming. In both cases we were told by an employee(ditch company and movie)that it was going on. We were told it was a drought than and now by the state. In between these two times we had a waterfall everyday and heavy flow a couple weeks before it stopped. The diversion is no longer up at blue hole as one of the kayak owners is a helicopter pilot. There is a lot more to this but I am not interested in throwing stones. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-79848281108938501212015-08-19T23:26:18.910-10:002015-08-19T23:26:18.910-10:00So sad, but So damn true. So sad, but So damn true. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-7415542874688077882015-08-19T15:58:57.901-10:002015-08-19T15:58:57.901-10:00Manuahi you do it all the time.
Manuahi you do it all the time.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-14092354733615127642015-08-19T15:32:23.139-10:002015-08-19T15:32:23.139-10:00peace, harmony, happiness thru out the world!peace...peace, harmony, happiness thru out the world!peace, harmony, happiness thru out the world!<br />peace, harmony, happiness thru out the world!peace, harmony, happiness thru out the world!<br />peace, harmony, happiness thru out the world!peace, harmony, happiness thru out the world!<br />peace, harmony, happiness thru out the world!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-20701721286432697012015-08-19T14:39:28.693-10:002015-08-19T14:39:28.693-10:00wailua kayak operators should foot the bill for th...wailua kayak operators should foot the bill for the fiasco they started. isn't there state law about this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88162439406570718082015-08-19T09:07:41.525-10:002015-08-19T09:07:41.525-10:00I love the reasoning! If you can't figure out...I love the reasoning! If you can't figure out why something bad is happening, then it must be the fault of people you hate. Now that completely makes sense!Manuahihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10935756151568533081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-42560809904918185752015-08-19T08:58:34.915-10:002015-08-19T08:58:34.915-10:008:12, You need to make some friends if you can- n...8:12, You need to make some friends if you can- not likely here. Try sucking up to the folks at KKCRap.for another "rolling laugh". And you might take a gander at the USGS Hawaii water site when your tears of laughter clear up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-74615447175938941922015-08-19T08:18:29.021-10:002015-08-19T08:18:29.021-10:00I'm not going to apologize for being well-info...I'm not going to apologize for being well-informed or having a lot of contacts. That's my job as a reporter. I'm the one laughing, however, at the power you unduly subscribe to me. That's how people disempower themselves, you know. They give it to other people.<br /><br />You make yourself look quite inane when you make comments about "how people were getting suspicious and had videos and stuff." How about investing in a rain gauge? Then you would know it rained 3 inches and the falls got water. <br /><br />Must be tough living with such a paranoid world view. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-27021424250040537722015-08-19T08:12:31.020-10:002015-08-19T08:12:31.020-10:00Joan you seemingly have "friends everywhere&q...Joan you seemingly have "friends everywhere" who should be doing their jobs but are posting here and sending you sources of info that cannot be verified. You are so in the know. I am so jealous and scandalized. Didn't you tell them to open it up cud people were getting suspicious and had video and stuff. I am rolling laugh right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-66049870816652626052015-08-19T08:03:38.384-10:002015-08-19T08:03:38.384-10:00rain =s falls. no rain =s no falls. how sinister...rain =s falls. no rain =s no falls. how sinister is that ????. creating plots involving diversions, pumps and tractors is more glamorous. thought kauai krybabies were limited to anti barkers, TVA operators, KHS haters, anti gmo-ers, anti dusters, anti ferry-ers. its a epidemic. kry, grumble, point finger, accuse, demand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-54681619101581458102015-08-18T22:03:06.688-10:002015-08-18T22:03:06.688-10:00@6:40. "It is a little suspicious that the fl...@6:40. "It is a little suspicious that the flow has suddenly resumed."<br /><br />. It rained. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-3147335004607756032015-08-18T21:23:03.306-10:002015-08-18T21:23:03.306-10:00Cry me a river, a river that overflows, overflows ...Cry me a river, a river that overflows, overflows with love, with love that grows , that grows takes hold of, with intensity, with desire, intensity takes hold of , lift me ever higher.........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30456567319951044142015-08-18T18:40:05.870-10:002015-08-18T18:40:05.870-10:00I also saw the drastic change in water patterns by...I also saw the drastic change in water patterns by Sugi Grove but I cannot say who or which company cemented that diversion. <br /><br />The CrayCrayCR types are useful. The do identity problems. They get it totally wrong and defame people along the way but after they convince the usual 50 people that the sky is falling and assign arbitrary blame to some bad guy du jour, the real critical thinkers sometimes take notice and take over. And these people with jobs and some power often figure out what is really wrong and begin to examine what might be done within the framework of laws and property rights to fix things. The chicken littles are like the burglar alarm that goes off too much. One begins to ignore it. I realized in reading the comments I have not given to KKCR in a few years either. Its like some kind of a smug hate germ has taken hold there.<br /><br />1:03 sounds very knowledgeable and I would urge those in power to inspect these diversions and particularly look at if it has killed Kawaikoi stream. If those reports of standing stinking water where a stream used to be are confirmed, it is very serious situation and could run afoul of wetlands protections or endangered species laws. If something other than shrill blaming and wailing into microphones is to be done, this demands rigorous and immediate data gathering more than it demands chopping the head off some farmer with a big garden hose. On something as important as the loss of an ecosystem on Kauai, it is important that this is properly evaluated in short order.<br /><br />It was about 3 years ago that the waterfall down into Waimea canyon disappeared.It looked like a big water diversion at that time and it makes sense that maybe some company felt the need to protect its water rights. If this is true, there might be a legislative fix. But this loss of flow is certainly not due to the inch and a half pipe and tractor that the cray cray C R personalities have jumped to blame. <br /><br />All that said, it is a little suspicious that the flow has suddenly resumed. Same thing happened in Moloaa a few years back. Flow was back right after the media reported it. I used to ask "Who do you trust?" Now I know the answer is no one. Only verification matters, especially when it comes to politicians, industrialists and professional activists. Flip sides of the same coin. Professional liars.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-57445502829160675052015-08-18T17:37:55.875-10:002015-08-18T17:37:55.875-10:00Water more valuable than gold, huh? If that'...Water more valuable than gold, huh? If that's true, then the free market will put investment dollars into industrial salt-to-fresh water conversion and mankind will buy it. But then, the eco-activists will say it's not natural and it must have chemicals that are harmful and cause autism in our children. But I believe that ultimately science will figure things out (because no one else is) and that even with the fringy Luddites, who hate technological answers to problems, acting to kill it, mankind will be able to produce enough water for the productive countries to survive just fine and the people made rich by these technologies will contribute billions to solve the problem for the struggling nations....if they can only quit killing each other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-76405288309325552015-08-18T17:32:46.686-10:002015-08-18T17:32:46.686-10:004:17 PM said...
Joan come on, if you were on then...<br />4:17 PM said...<br /><br /><i>Joan come on, if you were on then other side of this issue you would be all over this but your handlers expect you to keep us all in line.</i><br /><br />The notion that Joan Conrow has "handlers" is an oxymoron.<br /><br />(Oxymoron: the secret gas in jet chemtrails that flaccidifies brains.)<br /><br />Dawsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-6739156549240884312015-08-18T17:29:30.084-10:002015-08-18T17:29:30.084-10:00All water is under the eye, ever since the 100 yea...All water is under the eye, ever since the 100 year event and 40 full days of rain flooded one man's illegal reservoir and destroyed another man's illegal dwellings. And the illegal reservoir killed the residents of the illegal dwellings and Kauai will forever suffer. <br />Instead of two men admitting their actions created the horror and setting the record straight, we have the State of Hawaii and Kauai afraid of all water. The reservoirs are being decommissioned and the ditches stay go.<br />The sorrow of death is unfathomable. But some where there must be some balance...the eastside and northside waterways are forever impacted. The County mishandled this sorry event, no one has accepted the reality of 2 men doing bad things and the island will suffer.<br />We need leaders or else all NS and eastside farming is dead forever. The control of water is gone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-89108906435370356142015-08-18T17:12:13.691-10:002015-08-18T17:12:13.691-10:002:21-- Just because it was all over social media d...2:21-- Just because it was all over social media doesn't mean it's true!!! <br /><br />Makaleha and Uluwehi are totally different systems. Just because one has water doesn't mean the other will. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-3195237950822587232015-08-18T17:08:48.370-10:002015-08-18T17:08:48.370-10:00Welp, first off, Mr Leonard is a good guy. Honest ...Welp, first off, Mr Leonard is a good guy. Honest and caring, just explaining what is up with his kayaks business. Leave Will alone, just a father and hard worker, who has sinewed his way thru the BS that the State and County make all businesses go thru. <br /><br />Secret Falls has run fast and nil for decades. A simple gate. An overflow from the other valley.<br />The guys in their boats, kayaks etc. are under a hard thumb by the State and tho' I am jealous of the big bucks they can make, any one who can deal with the Government on these issues deserves respect. The government is the entity that sucks the life blood out of us all. Whether by taxes, regulations or permits...1 out of every 5 people on the island work for the Gov...and each one sits on the big pension, high salary and all they do is boss you around. What a life.<br />ALL F*cking water outside of the rivers is because some great men a hundred years or so ago, wanted to grow sh*t. So they made all of hanawai ditches, tunnels, water bridges etc. <br />On the Eastside...the State DLNR owns most ditches, Good luck. Not a one is kept open. The cows and guinea grass have choked or trod down many flows. Weeds, cows erosion...and not a DLNR worker to keep them running. The DLNR has let a legacy of Water and Agriculture, literally run down the drain.<br />On the South and Westside, thank God All Mighty, the hanawai ditches were retained with G&R, GF and A&B. These folks know how to keep the water flowing, they made the ditches and tunnels, and f*ck anyone, especially the State, County and Whiny dumbshits that complain about "water diversion".<br />Oh by the way, to Da Hoos, JoAnn and others, the hanawai man, hoehana man and sabedong man are the heros. They know more about water than all of your "form based, bike path, Mike Dahlig Ass kissing consultants could even dream of. The rubber boots on the ground and the engineers in the office...all water, outside the rivers and streams come from them.<br />Holy Rubber Boats Batman, can't we get to basics? Can't we let the businesses be free? Can't we let the Kayaks, Cattlemen and Sunshine Shell Hoale agitators work their own BS out amongst each other? Can't we let the Big Fistee types and the hard rain, hydroelectric power concrete, JoAnn Yukimura soft husband Wehreim types get together and challenge each other on "what do we do with the water?" and who really deserves control of it today?" Christ between us, there are easier ways.<br />The big bucks come from the tourist, the employment comes from the tourist, the County/State/ Fed all rely on the tourist and all the welfare people rely on the tourist. Taxes and Reveenuu, without the tourist we would be like the Marshall Islands. An island of Guvahmint cheese, spam and off brand Pampers.<br />Love the tourist, question the government and respect the big land owner.<br />Signed-just another rich haole know it all. The water will always flow downhill, only the government tinks dey can make it go up.<br />By the way Ms Joan, your blog can bring the best out of us. Thank you.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-83465942731737147322015-08-18T16:59:36.621-10:002015-08-18T16:59:36.621-10:00Water becoming more valuable than gold
April 24 NE...Water becoming more valuable than gold<br />April 24 NEW YORK<br />Something that many might take for granted is becoming highly coveted: water.<br />In fact, water has become more precious than gold.<br />Over the past 10 years the S&P 500 Global Water index has outperformed the bellwether gold and energy indices.<br /><br />n fact, water outperformed the stock market in the same period.<br /><br />While the planet Earth is primarily covered in water, only 2.5% of it is fresh, and only a portion of that is drinkable. In fact, many global agencies now say human kind is in a water crisis.<br />The World Economic Forum names it as the number three global risk of 2014.<br />U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has warned that, "over 780 million people today do not have access to improved sources of drinking water, especially in Africa."<br /><br />The corporate world has weighed in as well. The chairman of Nestle, the world's largest food company, says that water is, "a human right." Of course, Nestle also sells 63 brands of water around the planet.<br />Wall Street has taken notice of companies tackling the issue of supplying clean water and many are fast becoming the darlings of the investing world.<br />H20 is a $600 billion business, but it will grow to a $1 trillion by over the next six years according to a research report by Bank of America Merrill Lynch which cites dozens of companies that it thinks should benefit from water related themes and have global exposure to the water business.<br />The report breaks the global water market into four distinct categories. For water treatment the list includes firms like Stericycle (SRCL). For water management, companies like Monsanto (MON) fit the bill. When it comes to water infrastructure & supply the list includes companies like American Water Works (AWK). The final group contains water-friendly energy companies that provide wind, solar and geothermal opportunities like NRG Energy (NRG).<br />Related: China's soil pollution: It's much worse than you think<br />But besides the problem of generating enough clean water, the water crisis also raises some scary potential scenarios.<br />One is the idea that water will cause global conflicts in the future. Since water, food, and agriculture are so closely tied together, the idea of "water wars" erupting in Africa, the Middle East and Asia is seen as a real possibility by the Pacific Institute, a non-profit research group that studies resources worldwide, as nations rush to secure fresh water for their populations.<br />And don't think that it's only a third world problem. The U.S. Department of State has already mentioned water risk as a threat to national security.<br />By Patrick M. Sheridan April 24, 2014 14:49PM EDT<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-63700241967896123502015-08-18T16:19:04.768-10:002015-08-18T16:19:04.768-10:00Oh, yes, and I made it rain, too, just to cover u...Oh, yes, and I made it rain, too, just to cover up the theft. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-54620870362215984612015-08-18T16:17:56.810-10:002015-08-18T16:17:56.810-10:00what a lot of people here now do not know is that ...what a lot of people here now do not know is that the seed companies only use a small fraction of what the sugar companies used. Cane was a thirsty crop used lots of water especially when it was delivered to the fields by ditch. to get the most of what water was available, most of the sugar companies converted to drip irrigation which saved a lot of water from loss due to evaporation. So to blaming the seed companies for stealing or wasting water is ludicrous and downright uninformed. BUT it makes good story telling when you hate the seed companies and will do & say anything against them; true or false.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-42762544582241566212015-08-18T16:17:55.080-10:002015-08-18T16:17:55.080-10:00uh huh suddenly gets media attention and even when...uh huh suddenly gets media attention and even when it was raining before doesn't flow now it does. Joan come on, if you were on then other side of this issue you would be all over this but your handlers expect you to keep us all in line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-77817896457589554412015-08-18T16:06:00.975-10:002015-08-18T16:06:00.975-10:00IRT 10:05 AM - Directly or indirectly, every singl...IRT 10:05 AM - Directly or indirectly, every single person who lives on Kauai "makes money off of the natural resources Kauai provides". So the cocktail; waitress and tourist boat-hand, the agricultural worker, the government employee...all their salaries are derived because of Kauai's natural resources. So to point a finger at any one person or business is hypocritical unless they are destroying those resources like many of our fishermen and opihi & limu pickers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-35930601582007998672015-08-18T15:40:02.561-10:002015-08-18T15:40:02.561-10:00oh my, KKCR spreading misinformation? again? snark...oh my, KKCR spreading misinformation? again? snarkiness aside, KKCR doesn't need standards; it's community radio! quit'yer bitchin' and get a timeslot. there's room for you in the booth!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-50967819405858102692015-08-18T15:04:39.360-10:002015-08-18T15:04:39.360-10:001:03 pm - who is the "they" you refer to...1:03 pm - who is the "they" you refer to as cementing the holes? Do you have proof of who "they" are?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com