tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post1584298409327263249..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Solstice ShortJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-79923871223440353212009-06-22T10:57:05.591-10:002009-06-22T10:57:05.591-10:00...of which Hawaii is and ever shall be a part....of which Hawaii is and ever shall be a part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-40768936590140947842009-06-21T21:56:21.600-10:002009-06-21T21:56:21.600-10:00So does the Unites States of America.So does the Unites States of America.Andrew Cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404795276468632488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-53235105994202294562009-06-21T20:22:02.700-10:002009-06-21T20:22:02.700-10:00"Stupid example, the question is whether thes..."Stupid example, the question is whether these nations provide full rights to all citizens regardless of race. Indian reservations do not, you must be a descendant with some "blood quantum" to enjoy full rights, thus they are, by definition, racist."<br /><br />The Reinstated Hawaiian Nation gives full rights to all races. I do not think the Akaka bill does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-35500504894339995222009-06-21T18:45:56.909-10:002009-06-21T18:45:56.909-10:00Looks like you are right Joan, I checked the table...Looks like you are right Joan, I checked the table against the USNO data, 5:45UT it was. I got a bad time somewhere.Andrew Cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404795276468632488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-44192226671468763742009-06-21T18:45:50.475-10:002009-06-21T18:45:50.475-10:00"So Mexico, as a nation composed of Mexicans,..."So Mexico, as a nation composed of Mexicans, France, as a nation of French people, etc, etc., are just forms of racism?"<br /><br />Stupid example, the question is whether these nations provide full rights to all citizens regardless of race. Indian reservations do not, you must be a descendant with some "blood quantum" to enjoy full rights, thus they are, by definition, racist.<br /><br />Thus I may vote in a reservation election, even though I live 3,000 miles away and have never lived there. But someone else, not a tribal member related by blood, who lived on the rez could not vote on tribal leadership that has power over their daily lives.<br /><br />Generally I do not vote, tribal politics are pretty ridiculous most of the time. Besides, why should I, a non-resident, have a say on these things. I shredded the last ballot.Andrew Cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404795276468632488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-23957004144116608492009-06-21T18:20:58.058-10:002009-06-21T18:20:58.058-10:00"just like if you asked the white South Afric..."just like if you asked the white South Africans if they supported apartheid they would likely have said yes."<br /><br />sure, if you view the "filipinos, chinese, japanese and other ethnic groups in hawaii" as equivalent to the afrikaners and the US and state gov as engaged in violent racial segregation in hawaii..<br /><br />ya so actually no real analogy there after all <br /><br /><br />dwpsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-27492425405626019062009-06-21T10:01:11.272-10:002009-06-21T10:01:11.272-10:00The Solstice is tomorrow, at least in Hawai'i ...<em>The Solstice is tomorrow, at least in Hawai'i thanks to time zones. Specifically it occurs at 11:28UT (01:28HST), early in the morning.</em><br /><br />I beg to differ, Andrew. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solstice" rel="nofollow">The table</a> I found showed the Solstice at 5:45 am Sunday UT. If you <a href="http://www.dxing.com/utcgmt.htm" rel="nofollow">subtract 10 hours</a> for HST, that made it 7:45 pm on Saturday.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-60956697254178439472009-06-21T09:43:10.673-10:002009-06-21T09:43:10.673-10:00"but i bet if we asked the filipinos, chinese..."but i bet if we asked the filipinos, chinese, japanese and other ethnic groups in hawaii if they are glad (1) their relatives came to hawaii whenever, and (2) that hawaii is a US state, they would say "yes" "<br /><br />just like if you asked the white South Africans if they supported apartheid they would likely have said yes.<br /><br />"I do not support the 'solutions' of sovereignty based on ethnicity, just another form of racism."<br /><br />So Mexico, as a nation composed of Mexicans, France, as a nation of French people, etc, etc., are just forms of racism?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-9851002620153063852009-06-20T13:57:39.102-10:002009-06-20T13:57:39.102-10:00I agree that the Akaka bill is probably a bad idea...I agree that the Akaka bill is probably a bad idea. I do not support the 'solutions' of sovereignty based on ethnicity, just another form of racism. Which may seem odd, as the legal advantages of a reservation has certainly benefited my relatives, casino and all.<br /><br />The Solstice is tomorrow, at least in Hawai'i thanks to time zones. Specifically it occurs at 11:28UT (01:28HST), early in the morning.Andrew Cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404795276468632488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-91075551584028866922009-06-20T12:52:48.865-10:002009-06-20T12:52:48.865-10:00dunno much about that akaka bill. but i bet if we ...dunno much about that akaka bill. but i bet if we asked the filipinos, chinese, japanese and other ethnic groups in hawaii if they are glad (1) their relatives came to hawaii whenever, and (2) that hawaii is a US state, they would say "yes" <br /><br /><br />dwpsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com