tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post1923595660061395289..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Need to KnowJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-43906523387626884122013-08-03T21:45:20.664-10:002013-08-03T21:45:20.664-10:00Roundup is not safe to drink because of the surfac...Roundup is not safe to drink because of the surfactants. However, the active ingredient, glyphosate, reportedly is...unless you are a plant. Though I wouldn't recommend doing so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-76182449265542672052013-08-01T08:14:12.701-10:002013-08-01T08:14:12.701-10:00For the record, its been 120 years since the overt...For the record, its been 120 years since the overthrow of 1893, 115 yrs since the bogus "annexation" and 54 years since a statehood vote that failed to include independence as required. My great-great grandfathers were Royalists who supported the Monarchy, one who helped shipped guns to the revolutionaries. To put it in a historical perspective, not that long ago. Tourists don't give a rats ass because they don't know. Not something taught in the history books. Both the Biotech industry and Tourism have participated in the disenfranchisement of Kanaka Hawaii and I don't buy the strategy of pitting one against the other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-21879810978145418072013-07-31T13:20:32.138-10:002013-07-31T13:20:32.138-10:00> I don't think very many tourists give a ...<i>> I don't think very many tourists give a rat's ass about what happened politically in Hawaii 150 years ago. <<br /><br />...Yet. </i><br /><br />At some point of critical information mass, the mainland mainstream media will see the story value in connecting 150 years of dots in a line that leads to "Paradise Lost." When it becomes popular perception that an entire island has jumped the shark, whole masses of tourists, always self-interested in finding better deals, will find them.<br /><br />At which point you Defenders of Business as Usual can bend over and kiss your Status Quo goodbye.<br /><br />Think it can't happen, and in fact isn't already revving up to happen? Then you don't understand the thin threads of popular perception that hold together the fabric of tourism -- an industry where the big players can drop you as fast as they found you.Dawsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-3353912934105009832013-07-31T06:50:15.756-10:002013-07-31T06:50:15.756-10:00I don't think very many folks here today, loca...I don't think very many folks here today, locals or transplants, care much about "what happened politically in Hawaii 150 years ago". I do think they care more about GMOs and the health risks associated with pesticides.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-51357696742332163342013-07-31T06:34:45.872-10:002013-07-31T06:34:45.872-10:00I have to laugh at your mention of the "illeg...I have to laugh at your mention of the "illegal overthrow". That is what the British Empire was saying about the colonists or what any past governing entity says when the people decide to change their system of government. I don't think very many tourists give a rat's ass about what happened politically in Hawaii 150 years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-27340664884435850272013-07-30T22:05:26.823-10:002013-07-30T22:05:26.823-10:00Would they also boycott us if they knew about the ...Would they also boycott us if they knew about the illegal overthrow (some of them), the toxic military installations and live-fire war games (probably not unless it was close to their hotel), the dirty water (maybe), the TVRs with ground floor bedrooms in the flood zone (don't think so), the racism (umm, no-see Zimmerman-Martin), the cronyism (doubt it), the corruption (just like back home), the poverty (again, just like back home), the domestic violence (ditto), Hawaiians homeless in their own homelands (no, this country has a history of "assimilating" native populations), the ice epidemic that shameless posturers like state narc Keith Kamita try to cover up by portraying marijuana as the bogeyman instead (meth is bad on the mainland. I watch Breaking Bad). But they may be persuaded to stay away by not wanting to breath pesticide laden air or drink pesticide contaminated water. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-34555638360025605872013-07-30T22:01:04.918-10:002013-07-30T22:01:04.918-10:00Watch how GMO VIPs will get to testify before the ...Watch how GMO VIPs will get to testify before the rest of the useless eaters. That will tell you everything. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-75648336781691940972013-07-30T20:17:38.773-10:002013-07-30T20:17:38.773-10:00Abuse Chronicles #20
Still flipping....
12/30/20...Abuse Chronicles #20 <br />Still flipping....<br /><br />12/30/2004 TRANSD $0 DOC 04-264828 <br />KROUSE, CLIFFORD T, H/W(Joint Tenancy)<br />KROUSE, I C, H/W(Joint Tenancy)<br /><br />3/2/2005 TRANSD $0 DOC 05-041999 <br />MAAS, CRAIG H, Trustee(Tenants in Severalty)<br />*CRAIG H. MAAS REVOCABLE TRUST, DATED DECEMBER<br /><br />*24, 1998, WITH ALL THE POWERS<br />CRAIG H MAAS REVOCABLE TRUST, Revocable Trust(Tenants in Severalty)<br /><br />12/28/2012 QD $1,000 DOC 47450712 <br />KROUSE, CLIFFORD T, H/W(Joint Tenancy)<br />KROUSE, I C, H/W(Joint Tenancy)<br /><br />12/28/2012 DEED $1,900,000 DOC 47450713 <br />TENIR LLC, A Company or Corporation(Tenants in Severalty)<br /><br />7/1/2013 DEED $1,900,000 DOC 49300059 <br />F&A KLEINBUB FAMILY LIMITED PARTNERSHIP, Partnership(Tenants in Severalty)<br /><br />7/11/2013 QD $1,000 DOC 49400695 <br />SWAYING PALMS KAUAI VENTURE LP, Partnership(Tenants in Severalty)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-48811473438462326232013-07-30T19:47:05.375-10:002013-07-30T19:47:05.375-10:00July 30, 2013 at 10:18 AM:
Come see the outspoken ...July 30, 2013 at 10:18 AM:<br />Come see the outspoken ʻminorityʻ tomorrow.<br /><br /><br />Poison is toxic, why do we need to "prove" a well-known fact?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11700043416777142672013-07-30T18:10:26.635-10:002013-07-30T18:10:26.635-10:00The State can test the air, water and soil in and ...The State can test the air, water and soil in and around the fields where pesticides are applied now. Dickie Chang got the state to test Lydgate Pond. This is of greater importance to the people of Kauai and the State. But to ask the county to take this on? They can't even test Lydgate. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-60220063522431500162013-07-30T14:24:14.693-10:002013-07-30T14:24:14.693-10:00heres the link to the county tax records...
http:...heres the link to the county tax records...<br /><br />http://qpublic7.qpublic.net/hi_kauai_display.php?KEY=580120140000&show_owners=1&<br /><br />aloha DeanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-65951097313135866862013-07-30T14:16:56.011-10:002013-07-30T14:16:56.011-10:00Yes, I did state it, but at the moment, I can'...Yes, I did state it, but at the moment, I can't locate the source for it. <br /><br />If it's wrong, I'm happy to correct it. County tax records do list Irene Krouse as an owner.<br /><br />Oh, and good luck to you, too, when those really monster north swells come rolling in each winter. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-553989285115484432013-07-30T13:48:53.624-10:002013-07-30T13:48:53.624-10:00Joan, did you or did you not state as a fact in yo...Joan, did you or did you not state as a fact in your Abuse Chronicles # 20 that "In December 2012, Realtor Roberta Haas sold the house for $1.9 million to California-based Tenir LLC, whose principals are Krouse and his wife."<br /><br />Please post for all concerned with the truth and the veracity of your postings your source for this statement.<br /><br />Good Luck!<br /><br />Tenir LLC<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-50206060138518729942013-07-30T13:40:00.548-10:002013-07-30T13:40:00.548-10:00Joan you forgot to add that their patents on their...Joan you forgot to add that their patents on their seeds benefits from their new chem/bio products which in turn helps drive up their pharmaceutical drugs through the roof.<br /><br /><br />SHOW ME THE MONEY! My family has to eat (cheap). I need a paycheck (don't take away my job). Neva mind uncles and aunties stay sick with cancer and will die at ages 40's-50's (they had long life). <br /><br /><br />The END GAME is that all the money in the world is not going to save the dead people, people dying from cancers, children suffering through adulthood with allergies, sickness, and diseases attributed to these chem/bio test sites.<br /><br />Kauai will be a superfund site that will be uninhabitable!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-67709174826627952772013-07-30T13:20:26.010-10:002013-07-30T13:20:26.010-10:00To Anonymous 12:30 pm (aka Gary Fisher of Abuse Ch...To Anonymous 12:30 pm (aka Gary Fisher of Abuse Chronicles 16?) --<br /><br />A quick review of the Abuse Chronicles finds just two — #10 & #16 — that include references to the owner claiming the homeowner's exemption. In neither case did I make any claim or inference that it was illegal.<br /><br />But now I understand the source of so much vitriol, so thanks for outing yourself.<br /><br />Chuck, thanks for having the balls to use your name. But I really wish you wouldn't mischaracterize my views. I've never maintained that Bill 2491 is "just a transparency bill." I know it's much more than that. I don't think I've ever even used the word transparency in association with the bill. But it is indeed about people wanting to know what the chem companies are doing.<br /><br />I do plan to attend tonight's meeting, though I doubt I'll be convinced, as you are, that this bill "would literally end the economic viability of farming on Kauai beyond a few hand-tilled little farms." That's fine. We can have different opinions.<br /><br />As to whether it's a "GMO company expulsion bill," well, that remains to be seen.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-53134633228238488682013-07-30T12:33:03.595-10:002013-07-30T12:33:03.595-10:00Joan - did you attend the event in Waimea last nig...Joan - did you attend the event in Waimea last night, or are you going to the event at Kapaa Elementary School tonight from 6 to 8? I would assume so, as you hate biased reporting as much as I do, I think.<br /><br />Of course, your continued lie that Bill 2491 is just a transparency bill, just about "the right to know," makes me wonder about your reporting. Bill 2491 would literally end the economic viability of farming on Kauai beyond a few hand-tilled little farms here and there. Transparency is only one small part of the bill. So I ask you to consider adjusting your posts to be more intellectually honest and call the bill what it is - a "GMO company expulsion bill."<br /><br />P.S. - I never comment anonymously.Chuck Laskerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16719048370037095323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-65636885319636886622013-07-30T12:30:26.065-10:002013-07-30T12:30:26.065-10:00Joan, you claim to write "only the real facts...Joan, you claim to write "only the real facts" about TVR's, but if one examines these "facts",one finds that they are merely your opinion masquerading as fact. You challenge your critics to come up with "even one instance where my TVR reports did not present the real facts of a case." I'll take up your challenge. Your TVR reports have many references to your belief in the "fact" that it is illegal for a kauai homeowner to claim both a home occupancy exemption AND qualify as a TVR. In fact, even the most minimal research - like looking up the qualifications for the homeowners exemption on the kauai.gov website - would show that a kauai homeowner could easily meet both standards. Despite this, you wrongfully imply that many TVR owners were\are committing tax fraud or TVR fraud. As further proof that this belief of yours was never an actual fact, but only your misinformed personal opinion, consider this: The Kauai Council itself has just this month proposed draft bill #2495, which among other things states that anyone holding a transient vacation rental permit will (in the future!) lose a homeowner’s exemption. Meaning that up to now, there was nothing inherently illegal about claiming BOTH the homeowners exemption and TVR usage. So much for the "facts" that TVR owners are committing fraud.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-80733125285711845102013-07-30T12:18:48.072-10:002013-07-30T12:18:48.072-10:00"Step out of your perfect world for a minute,..."Step out of your perfect world for a minute, and realize that just because you and your out spoken minority don't like something, doesn't mean the county is wrong."<br /><br />Yes Joan, just watch the island poisoned with chemicals and keep your mouth shut like the majority.<br /><br />Dr ShibaiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-79880943878330048112013-07-30T11:51:51.212-10:002013-07-30T11:51:51.212-10:00Paranoid AND racist. George Zimmerman is alive and...Paranoid AND racist. George Zimmerman is alive and well on Kauai.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-36624614766039204282013-07-30T11:46:45.792-10:002013-07-30T11:46:45.792-10:00This a trifecta for the anti groups.
1- paragons o...This a trifecta for the anti groups.<br />1- paragons of virtue Hooser and Bynum get accolades<br />2- Big land owners and AG get stomped and BEST OF ALL<br />3- Now the tourist industry (the evilest evil of them all) can be exorcised because of sharing the same physical reality with Chemical companies..........Just think, pretty soon<br />no more building, no more job and all is wonderful........paradise - sweet paradiseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-75072711878033360832013-07-30T11:40:31.706-10:002013-07-30T11:40:31.706-10:00I am so happy that now some other mainland organiz...I am so happy that now some other mainland organizations are coming to assist the poor little people of Kauai. The last thing this island needs is some more shrill voiced, hatchet faced, straggly haired haoles sticking there nose in...........we already have more than our share..........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-15461014714918322252013-07-30T10:28:51.729-10:002013-07-30T10:28:51.729-10:00Yes Joan, don't you know you should be a good ...Yes Joan, don't you know you should be a good plantation slave and never criticize, question or complain?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-65524170623908170682013-07-30T10:18:20.929-10:002013-07-30T10:18:20.929-10:00"Or what if you're like me...." Yes,..."Or what if you're like me...." Yes, its jus like you and your 100 followers who can't accept an explanation if you don't agree with it. Typical. You question the county and their operations. They answer it, but since you don't like the explanation, you bitch about that too. Step out of your perfect world for a minute, and realize that just because you and your out spoken minority don't like something, doesn't mean the county is wrong. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-18744938645415379892013-07-30T10:12:05.067-10:002013-07-30T10:12:05.067-10:00...or that Joan is so concerned about the well bei......or that Joan is so concerned about the well being of Kauai's tourists who stay in TVRs that, in 30 years of walking around the island, she's somehow NEVER spotted a single local family living in the flood zone, or found a single unpermitted addition built by locals!<br />Gosh, you'd almost think the planning department is only sloppy when it comes to TVR's!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-37195197754005072462013-07-30T09:49:47.772-10:002013-07-30T09:49:47.772-10:00Speaking of TVRs, I wonder if the tourists realize...Speaking of TVRs, I wonder if the tourists realize that the ordinance governing their use of TVRs is itself illegal and that the Kauai Council is falling all over themselves trying to eliminate TVRs with no legal basis whatsoever to do so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com