tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post1974892784774949623..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Navigating the FjordsJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-91477530057257071362013-05-01T08:10:09.033-10:002013-05-01T08:10:09.033-10:00When have we had a food shortage on Kauai? That f...When have we had a food shortage on Kauai? That fear arose out of the Peak Oil arguement which has died a quiet death due to the massive resources we have such as natural gas, etc. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30976769648926857722012-02-13T21:58:39.192-10:002012-02-13T21:58:39.192-10:00You would have to change state law on CPRs and the...You would have to change state law on CPRs and the CZO which allow 50 units to be permitted WITHOUT public hearing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-22615287226436981302012-02-13T21:58:10.950-10:002012-02-13T21:58:10.950-10:00You would have to change state law on CPRs and the...You would have to change state law on CPRs and the CZO which allow 50 units to be permitted WITHOUT public hearing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-34678680862884807042012-02-13T21:31:29.258-10:002012-02-13T21:31:29.258-10:00What do we do from here? Start treating ag cprs li...What do we do from here? Start treating ag cprs like subdivisions, limit density, strictly define ag structures (no "barns" or "garages" that double as residences), do not let the gentlemen farmer build his estate on ag land --- keep him segregated in Kukuiula or Princeville where he rightfully belongs. We should encourage more B & Bs where the innkeeper is held responsible for the sins of the guests and the tourist money lines resident pockets instead of some off island company. No stand alone second home part time resident tvrs!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-36339108788028301732012-02-13T18:23:38.233-10:002012-02-13T18:23:38.233-10:00The applicants whose properties weren't locate...The applicants whose properties weren't located in the ag district got nonconforming use certificates, not permits. If the tvr is in the ag district, they need a special permit. If they didn't have one, they were operating illegally, but the county never enforced the law and let a bunch of illegal tvr operations establish a "vested" right. Totally fucked up and probably bullshit, but someone is making good money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-64511834206215667212012-02-13T13:45:44.547-10:002012-02-13T13:45:44.547-10:00Instead of (or in addition to) bashing those who h...Instead of (or in addition to) bashing those who have hearings coming up and have tried to legally get their permits - who is questioning the hundred or so permits that were issued in 2009 - without any hearing? That was done in a totally closed process - under Ordinance 864. There were a whole lot of people who got their permits with no public input - and without conditions. How was the determination of who got these "easy permits" in 2009 decided? It was not done in any order, other than on a who is connected basis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-23456736001760759672012-02-13T09:28:09.609-10:002012-02-13T09:28:09.609-10:00Then, they passed Ordinance 864 that said if you d...<em>Then, they passed Ordinance 864 that said if you don't have a special permit for your ag land TVR, you can't be grandfathered in. But that's unconstitutional. <br /><br />So they rewrote 864 into 904 giving everyone who had been operating before 2008 the right to apply for the special permits they wouldn't let you apply for before.</em><br /><br />Well, that's one interpretation of events. I think this discussion underscores why land use law remains a thriving trade!Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-69362653281764295762012-02-13T07:45:44.160-10:002012-02-13T07:45:44.160-10:00Th planning commission could do their jobs and hir...Th planning commission could do their jobs and hire someone who is old enough to know how to deal with what will be an outrageous amount of development on agricultural land. <br /><br />Instead of a grove farm drinking buddy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-71063857518629901572012-02-13T07:04:31.572-10:002012-02-13T07:04:31.572-10:00The state constitution has required the state to p...The state constitution has required the state to protect ag land and identify and restrict development of important ag land since 1978. The state is now, some 34 years later, embarking on the process. Kauai county has, in those 34 years, let all kinds of non ag activities and non ag structures be developed. I don't think Mike Dahilig was even born 34 years ago, so give him a break. This thing has been a mess for decades and he has to deal with a lot of issues that others ignored.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-54258678579256933372012-02-12T20:29:51.169-10:002012-02-12T20:29:51.169-10:00Copies of the planners report, agency comments, an...Copies of the planners report, agency comments, and the actual permit with conditions issued are not posted. We get to beg for them and pay for paper copies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-33922293608201406972012-02-12T16:59:19.839-10:002012-02-12T16:59:19.839-10:00except that its on television
And noticed in the...except that its on television<br /><br /><br />And noticed in the paper, and on the planning website before hand. <br /><br />What do you want, an engraved personal invitation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11685553436542877952012-02-12T16:39:42.674-10:002012-02-12T16:39:42.674-10:00except that its on televisionexcept that its on televisionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-21428048533761679342012-02-12T13:03:44.431-10:002012-02-12T13:03:44.431-10:00"I guess they weren't aware of all those ..."I guess they weren't aware of all those permits being granted last year."<br />How could they have been aware? Where does the public get to find out about the department giving permits?<br />Shrouded and clouded, cloaked, opaque process, you can shove it down our throats, but don't be surprised we are choking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-81950988713228990292012-02-12T10:29:15.582-10:002012-02-12T10:29:15.582-10:00Fearing was not the first to come before the PC fo...Fearing was not the first to come before the PC for a permit by a long shot, and he did not say Laureta wrote his application. You are misinformed. <br /><br />If the haters think Fehring was first then that explains why they waited until the last month of the year and a half permitting process to start squawking. I guess they weren't aware of all those permits being granted last year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-16664119630960746182012-02-12T08:56:14.700-10:002012-02-12T08:56:14.700-10:00"Interesting that the haters wait until the l..."Interesting that the haters wait until the last month of the last of the process for the last few permits to start squawking."<br /><br />We're not "haters" and we've been fighting this since the start. where the hell have you been? off raping the aina?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-87223536260491277692012-02-12T07:39:34.962-10:002012-02-12T07:39:34.962-10:00Who in the PC was I suppose to give the liquor? I...Who in the PC was I suppose to give the liquor? I was told scotch but my buddy said tequila. Anyone know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-63181092164604055902012-02-12T07:05:14.100-10:002012-02-12T07:05:14.100-10:00Mayor, hire someone with real planning director ex...Mayor, hire someone with real planning director experience. Not someone who makes it up as they go along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38657531555426389732012-02-12T07:01:22.385-10:002012-02-12T07:01:22.385-10:00Not only are you paying for Mr Laureta's salar...Not only are you paying for Mr Laureta's salary, you are ALSO paying (at the same time) his retirement pay. It's called double dipping and it an identifiable source of corruption.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-85402863108398623032012-02-12T06:55:29.985-10:002012-02-12T06:55:29.985-10:00Fehring was the first applicant to come before the...Fehring was the first applicant to come before the PC looking for this permit , he told the planning commission Mike Laureta wrote his application, and now it's clear that is Mike's standard practice. PC should be replaced by people who actually do do their job. Why did it take them until last week to finally realize the applications are the same? Amazing grace, why do we pay Mike's salary/ he should be getting paid by the developers if he is doing their applications/ oh silly me/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-60196217540498789972012-02-12T06:48:37.207-10:002012-02-12T06:48:37.207-10:00So, the county must be granting permits for TVR&#...So, the county must be granting permits for TVR's on agriculture lands illegally, if the leg is proposing to change the language to allow it,nust not be allowed now. Quit Dahilig, he's not standing by the existing laws, just coming up with excuse after excuse to make plannings actions appear legit.<br />Mayor needs to do the same thing to planning as he did to the police . What good is it to have a lawyer for a planning director if his job is to dis the laws?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-46680782918236771592012-02-12T06:43:52.811-10:002012-02-12T06:43:52.811-10:00The LUC always has been available for landowners w...The LUC always has been available for landowners who want a permit for the unusual and special use of AG land. If your land is in the Agriculture SLUD,you go to the Land Use Commission for permits, and lacking that how can the county "grandfather", which relates only to a previously legal use.It is disingenuous to say you could not get a permit. And if you think your property should not be designated agriculture, the LUC has always been there for you to apply for a change. <br />And these landowners signed Farm Dwelling Agreements which allowed the farm dwelling to be built in the first place. Landowners who purchase ag land without doing due diligence, why is that our problem? but i doubt the landowners did not know, they just were told by the real esnakes that they can do whatever they like, as they sign on another AG property for a high end vacation rental. <br /> This is sick. Oh, and only those that broke our laws get the benefit. Great planning. Can't imagine why people are complaining.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-54227201484729533432012-02-11T16:30:00.697-10:002012-02-11T16:30:00.697-10:00Interesting that the haters wait until the last mo...Interesting that the haters wait until the last month of the last of the process for the last few permits to start squawking. Planning Commission has been granting permits every two weeks for a year. Why suddenly now the big interest after almost all the applications are through the process?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-57902184599867655142012-02-10T21:04:24.120-10:002012-02-10T21:04:24.120-10:00What other planning departments write templates of...What other planning departments write templates of applications for applicants?are those templates available on their website? Sounds pretty fishy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-83851608156034513772012-02-10T20:54:40.580-10:002012-02-10T20:54:40.580-10:00What an effing joke this county is. We are making ...What an effing joke this county is. We are making this sh%t up as we go along. Might as well have kids running it, they might do a better job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-2334433874424755662012-02-10T20:47:46.310-10:002012-02-10T20:47:46.310-10:00Doesn't matter what it doesn't say, in Zon...Doesn't matter what it doesn't say, in Zoning Ordinances, it matters what is specifically defined. So in other words, bed and breakfast is not defined in the new CZO. Much like Dahilgo claims, no definition for things like farms leads is directly into this knundrumAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com