tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post3177675711861314453..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: The Right PathJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-80593813146097927742009-11-13T23:21:44.213-10:002009-11-13T23:21:44.213-10:00"whoever said the
November 12, 2009 9:02 AM
M..."whoever said the<br />November 12, 2009 9:02 AM<br />Mayor's meeting was called weeks ago must be a path proponent. The other stakeholders just found out about the meeting Tuesday evening. Now either you are misinformed or, your the "Path GUY' and you knew, but didn't give the others the curtesy of adequate notice.. .<br /><br />Wailua Beach path online poll results are BS. Thomas, the path guy, emailed all over the place asking folks to vote, especially to his path list.There is no validity to a poll like that. You have no right to desecrate the sacred sands of Wailua.<br /><br />Maybe you didn't notice Mother Nature speak either, better put the path on pontoons. Better yet, do the right thing and move it off the beach. Thomas, be a good boy, do the right thing."<br /><br />-- there is much to make fun of in your post. but sorry the pathway is so well liked and used, and sorry if the path results are not to your liking. btw - youd be better off noting local anti path people are less technologically connected, thereby limiting online poll participation<br /><br /><br />dwpsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-45257601356409118192009-11-13T20:12:04.030-10:002009-11-13T20:12:04.030-10:00whoever said the
November 12, 2009 9:02 AM
Mayor&...whoever said the <br />November 12, 2009 9:02 AM<br />Mayor's meeting was called weeks ago must be a path proponent. The other stakeholders just found out about the meeting Tuesday evening. Now either you are misinformed or, your the "Path GUY' and you knew, but didn't give the others the curtesy of adequate notice.. .<br /><br />Wailua Beach path online poll results are BS. Thomas, the path guy, emailed all over the place asking folks to vote, especially to his path list.There is no validity to a poll like that. You have no right to desecrate the sacred sands of Wailua. <br /><br />Maybe you didn't notice Mother Nature speak either, better put the path on pontoons. Better yet, do the right thing and move it off the beach. Thomas, be a good boy, do the right thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-76199947571299329722009-11-13T19:05:32.845-10:002009-11-13T19:05:32.845-10:00"Which came first, the announcement of the vi..."Which came first, the announcement of the vigil or announcment of the Mayor's meeting? If the former, then they are blowing smoke..if the latter, Mayor's office is blowing smoke..."<br /><br />Not....revolution...involves everyone simultaneously....the politicians, the spiritual leaders, the activists, the artists, the writers, the grandmas, the teachers, the children.....each of us doing what we do best will bring about the change.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11637442516762209262009-11-13T16:27:00.637-10:002009-11-13T16:27:00.637-10:00November 12, 2009 4:05 PM
Meadow Gold actually ma...November 12, 2009 4:05 PM<br /><br />Meadow Gold actually made that road back in the day when the cows were actually out on the reef, but if you want to think its the hippies that did it - you must have seen a lot more hippies with backhoes than I have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-1968718013743544652009-11-13T16:22:53.356-10:002009-11-13T16:22:53.356-10:00November 12, 2009 9:02 AM
Mayor's meeting was ...November 12, 2009 9:02 AM<br />Mayor's meeting was called weeks ago. The vigil was annoucned on Nov. 11.<br /><br />Wailua Beach path online poll results<br /><br />•54 percent favor multi-use path on Wailua Beach<br /><br />•46 percent favor redirecting the path<br /><br />It appears to me the people have spoken.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-28020927443938684602009-11-13T12:21:11.341-10:002009-11-13T12:21:11.341-10:00November 12, 2009 7:33 PM said it all. An economy ...November 12, 2009 7:33 PM said it all. An economy based on ever increasing consumption? I don't think so. It over it ain't going any further!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-90991325303498549792009-11-12T19:33:32.443-10:002009-11-12T19:33:32.443-10:00I have to admit, I used to set up a projecter and ...I have to admit, I used to set up a projecter and sound system for the pharma<br />hustlers (back in the day, I actually thought getting a pharma sales job would be <br />good for my bottom line). A group of local doctors would get wined and dined at <br />Kilohana Restaurant, the only cost would be the proverbial sales hustle, via<br />the sales girl.<br /><br />Advertising is really just a brainwashing hustle. It has no relavance to product<br />relaiability or performance. It just says, hey, I got miillion dollars to blow on<br />my interest. As I will MAXIMIZE PROFIT! So I avoid advertising like the plague. I've never<br />seen a good deal in media except the food ads for comparitive reasons. Americans, somehow, have<br />decided that they like commercials and are lining up like gangbusters at the<br />register to empty their wallets. We'll respond to the to TV. Let's see, Big mac<br />and viagra. Well the doctor says it's okay, must be good!! Democracy is <br />working because we buy what they advertise. Educate yourself my friends,<br />it's not all what it xeems. Grow and cook your OWN! Only use the store for<br />things you can't grow yourself! Anyone know where to get some sumak seeds?<br /><br />As for maijuana; I did a concert at Kilohana for Little Feat, and I couldn't <br />beleive the amount of mj smoke coming out of that tent,or the amount of top<br />government offcials present there. We really need to get a truth in government <br />initiative! <br /><br />Until we can look within ourselves and see what's really going on in the world,<br />we have very little chance of solving it's problems. <br /><br /> As best as, little me, I can tell, we have a narrow window in time to correct <br />our percieved truths and rectify them. Dink Dumbaugh is at the top of the list! What a dummy!!<br /><br />I don't know if you've taken a trip to the mailnand and seen the amount of powerlines<br />that are running overhead, it's tnsidious. We're told we need this infrstructure, I don't think so!<br /><br />What we reallly need is to come together as a community, and pepetuate <br />what hawaiians have already taught us. Duh, figure it out, if we can stop alot<br />of the products shipped to us, we can by attitude adjustment and effort, we can really<br />eliminate cost and pollution, It actually passes Wall Street scrutiny.<br />What a concept!<br /><br />So much for my rants, and I sincerly hope JC and JW are able to reconcile, for we all need<br />to work together to make it through the new millineum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-31920879098393205402009-11-12T16:05:36.973-10:002009-11-12T16:05:36.973-10:00The long sloping trail is not ancient. The hippies...The long sloping trail is not ancient. The hippies made that trail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-86713966805378284912009-11-12T16:02:46.079-10:002009-11-12T16:02:46.079-10:00"First KP and now J. Wonder if hot flashes co..."First KP and now J. Wonder if hot flashes come with that orneriness."<br /><br />November 12, 2009 12:39 PM<br /><br />Ooh. Tacky tacky. Got a little hair up your ass huh?<br />Thatʻs a reaction youʻd expect from someone whoʻs wrong or scorned.<br /><br />tsk tsk. Afraid Joan is right on this one. No harm intended Juan but there has been some misguided mighty rightiness on your part.<br /><br />When someone has a much bigger plot of land than you do, wouldnʻt you expect them to use it as a commodity or should they grow only enough to feed a family? To them, utilizing more acreage is ʻmaking a livingʻ.<br /><br />This bickering is off point. The point is: who does all this land belong to, including the land under your house?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-85111327295668645542009-11-12T13:50:50.254-10:002009-11-12T13:50:50.254-10:00JC and JW in a pissing match...
...film at 11...
...JC and JW in a pissing match...<br /><br />...film at 11...<br /><br />I guess there can be a falling-out among tree-hugging new-age leftists after all.<br /><br />Fun to watch!<br /><br />Give us more...more...<br /><br />Dish the dirt...talk smack...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-23670222466529254672009-11-12T12:45:06.444-10:002009-11-12T12:45:06.444-10:00The private property issue is getting blown out of...The private property issue is getting blown out of proportion, and must be balanced with the public trust. Waioli corp has always been good stewards of the land. Traditionally, and still today, people accessed the coast from the alaloa, as they made their way along the coast to fish and gather. The trail has been in open use with the landowner always accepting that use. Like many places, overuse by transients has created problems. The people deserve to access that beautiful stretch of beach without having to go over a rocky cliff edge. Kupuna, should not be cut off from accessing what they always have used. Surely, the landowner can work with the community to find a solution that is equitable for all. When the property abuts the ocean, there are public trust issues as well. The transient issue, camping and nudity enforcement or police . We shouldn't all lose access because of poor enforcement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-72785976916071080482009-11-12T12:39:02.614-10:002009-11-12T12:39:02.614-10:00You and J have a falling-out?
First KP and now J....<i>You and J have a falling-out?</i><br /><br />First KP and now J. Wonder if hot flashes come with that orneriness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-20326687941714616222009-11-12T12:14:04.613-10:002009-11-12T12:14:04.613-10:00The fact is, the house I live in is owned by Ameri...<i>The fact is, the house I live in is owned by American Savings Bank. With a 30 year mortgage, I will pay them rent until I die.</i><br /><br />No. You own the house. American Savings Bank has a lien on the house to secure repayment on the loan you asked them for. American Savings Bank doesn't have any rights of ownership in your house. But you do. You can live in it or rent it out or paint it purple. <br /><br />And, I bet you don't let just anyone come onto your property and take your taro or macnuts uninvited. You evil robber baron, you.<br /><br />Before anyone starts feeling superior, having a lease and paying rent on an apartment is also a private property right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-33894870964296840222009-11-12T11:35:19.716-10:002009-11-12T11:35:19.716-10:00Juan Wilson’s screed
pot, kettle: ebon and ink-li...<i>Juan Wilson’s screed</i><br /><br />pot, kettle: ebon and ink-like in its tenebrous moonlessness as Koko and I chuckled just a little bitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-39300730049792543622009-11-12T11:27:01.292-10:002009-11-12T11:27:01.292-10:00Joan,
A "Screed" is a long and monotono...Joan,<br /><br />A "Screed" is a long and monotonous harangue. Thanks for the kind words. <br /><br />The last paragraph that you quoted in my article is about those who see land as a "commodity". That's the point. There is a difference between making a living on the land, versus making money off the land. Maybe you do not discern the difference.<br /><br />You interviewed be several years ago. Much has changed in the world since then. Peak Everything, The Great Depression and Climate Chaos to name a few.<br /><br />Owning property is like owning beer... it only passes through you. The fact is, the house I live in is owned by American Savings Bank. With a 30 year mortgage, I will pay them rent until I die.<br /><br />If you remember from your visit to interview me, I spent much of the time with you in my garden showing you the dryland taro I was growing and the fruit trees we had planted. <br /><br />Since then we have added a big chicken coop and begun serious harvest of macadamia nuts. We are growing vegetables in tubs and on the ground. <br /><br />We trade produce with friends near by and barter some of what we grow at Mana Ohana for things we need. No cash required.<br /><br />It's true, I work at home and grow food there too. I'm trying to do it with pono and the support of my Hawaiian neighbors. <br /><br />To me that is an indication that where I live is the source of my life and a bit of one for those around me.<br /><br />Isn't there a better target for your biting sarcasm than me?<br /><br />What's growing in your garden? Do you work at home? <br /><br />Juan Wilson<br />www.islandbreath.org<br />Hanapepe ValleyJuan Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00235465611717847305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-5805873731971473812009-11-12T11:08:34.115-10:002009-11-12T11:08:34.115-10:00"Speaking of the latter, a friend took the da..."Speaking of the latter, a friend took the day off yesterday, telling his boss he was a veteran of the war on drugs, an assessment with which his boss agreed."<br /><br />-- "a veteran of the war on drugs" ...that is a pretty great line :)<br /><br /><br />dwpsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-9532561115587980582009-11-12T10:54:17.386-10:002009-11-12T10:54:17.386-10:00You find it ironic that those who are dismissive o...You find it ironic that those who are dismissive of private property rights think nothing of exploiting and mistreating public lands for their own economic purposes?<br /><br />That's the opposite of ironic. What would be ironic was someone who is dismissive of private property rights who wasn't totally selective and hypocritical about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-62800872276350825722009-11-12T09:22:49.579-10:002009-11-12T09:22:49.579-10:00Juan's producing "screed"? Well, I ...Juan's producing "screed"? Well, I would agree, but you writing it?<br /><br />You and J have a falling-out? As I recall, the 2 of you were like-minded buddies in the past.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-52469115056035184552009-11-12T09:02:08.682-10:002009-11-12T09:02:08.682-10:00Which came first, the announcement of the vigil or...Which came first, the announcement of the vigil or announcment of the Mayor's meeting? If the former, then they are blowing smoke..if the latter, Mayor's office is blowing smoke...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com