tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post3754445547325403536..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Hawaii's Last Anti-GMO Law OverturnedJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-68207131188651243082015-07-05T09:13:50.745-10:002015-07-05T09:13:50.745-10:00claps to the 3 last posts. Its all the stuff you...claps to the 3 last posts. Its all the stuff you said, plus the thing that burns my butt the most. these guys come to our island, buy property, obviously understand zoning , but purposely still go ahead and operate TVAs outside the VDA, thumbing their noses to the rest of us. everyone of these people were illegal until the council grandfathered hundreds of these crooks while in the same breath said, "NO MORE". yet, there are more illegal operations outside the VDA than grandfathered ones. Any of you guys understand the word, STOP? how would i describe these creeps? the other guy got away with it so can I, no shame, no class, selfish, self serving, neighbors? who cares, entitled, crybabies, liars, complainers, cheaters, money grubbers, zoning whats that?, are just some.<br /><br />as these guys become established and irritated by stuff going on around them, we see an upswing in complaints and law suits about barking pets, smoke, dust, noise, neighbors, roosters, GMO, inter island ferries, dairies, anything and everything upsetting to the entitled. good for hawaii? good for aloha? nope! check out the picture of the anti smoke meeting on Maui, posted here. if you doubt what is happening.<br /><br />who benefits? realtors, developers and attorneys rubbing their hands in glee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-21998033438807257882015-07-03T07:09:16.426-10:002015-07-03T07:09:16.426-10:00wtf can't you understand 9:31, visitors should...wtf can't you understand 9:31, visitors should stay in the VDA and everyone there is paid to smile, serve and be nice. When houses rent for 1400 a night in a residential neighborhood, the tourists feel entitled to party up and with no management on site, they ruin life for the residents. Not to mention it is state law .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-9919843440860109042015-07-02T21:31:01.036-10:002015-07-02T21:31:01.036-10:00We just don't want tourists renting in our nei...We just don't want tourists renting in our neighborhoods wtfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-3548638866395975422015-07-02T20:50:08.307-10:002015-07-02T20:50:08.307-10:00Yes they created the housing shortage by not stopp...Yes they created the housing shortage by not stopping the conversionof residences to mini hotels. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-12492376483954949142015-07-02T11:36:08.062-10:002015-07-02T11:36:08.062-10:00This is like an imaginary debate. War? No one is...This is like an imaginary debate. War? No one is doing anything except talking anonymous trash on blogs.<br /><br />Has ONE TVR that got a cease and desist been sold to anyone - local or not - because of being shut down? No.<br />Have TWO TVRs been criminally prosecuted? No.<br />Are there THREE B&B's with permits? No.<br />Is there any evidence that the price of housing is lower now that TVR and B&B are illegal? No.<br /><br />Some people at Planning and in Council will conveniently blame the TVR / B&B for the rising of property values, but it is the Planning Dep't and the County that created the housing shortage. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-58392240610886973162015-07-02T08:52:45.215-10:002015-07-02T08:52:45.215-10:00all u b&b and illegal tvr owners outside the V...all u b&b and illegal tvr owners outside the VDA that are doubting that locals couldn't purchase your damn home when you're put out business. That is racist! You guys are so disgusting. Look at Pikake, yeah right across Costco, local families, mansions. We can buy you damn mansions too. We might have to wait a little while for your overpriced house to sit on the market but we can do it. The arrogance is sickening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-19100740875078450082015-07-02T08:42:59.182-10:002015-07-02T08:42:59.182-10:00Keep talking and grumbling all you Steve Martins a...Keep talking and grumbling all you Steve Martins and other TVR abusers, you will all bury yourselves, Locals unite, protest at the planning commissions, No TVRs or B&Bs should be allowed outside of the VDA, Forever. Also, lets get Planning and Council to reduce the length of time for the existing permits. There must be state or county law to do this. Locals unite, the war is here. Lets fight these arrogant bastards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-22838736456831343082015-07-02T08:04:49.572-10:002015-07-02T08:04:49.572-10:0012:43, Your version of history has no basis in fac...12:43, Your version of history has no basis in fact. None. Yes the royals had some pomp. That was to show the world that Hawaii was a civilized nation. And it largely worked, with Hawaii recognized as such by all the major powers of the time. As for the discarding of the old religion, there was already a great deal of social pressure. The queens and commoners hated the kapu system brought in by the Tahitians in the 1500s. The introduction of human sacrifice etc. was offensive to many and caused undercurrents of social unrest. The arrival of the missionaries with a more peaceful philosophy was fortuitous. I suggest you read the pre1500 legends and compare the society to post 1500. The difference is stark.<br />The royalty cared a great deal about there people. They insisted they be able to read. Newspapers were popular. They did all they could, perhaps much more than anywhere else. To endow their people. Kamehameha Schools, Queens Hospital, Kapiolani Hospital, Liliokalani Trust, Bishop Museum, Kapiolani Park and Trust, Lahainaluna, and much more. From a royalty with no money to speak. Great deeds. Do not belittle these people. They even did not stop when annexed. Prince Kuhio got the Hawaiian Homes Act passed in Congress.They were weak against the mighty nations then about to start a world war, but they did what they could in the storm. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-74062760843271997352015-07-02T07:35:17.776-10:002015-07-02T07:35:17.776-10:00Ross said what a huge majority of the locals on Ka...Ross said what a huge majority of the locals on Kauai feel. All you self-entitled B&B and TVR owners operating outside the VDA "Shame on all of you." What you no can accept locals in you life? Rent your house or room to a local family for a nice cheap rent and work a real damn job. The hotels are empty. Why you stealing their business? You entitled? Move back to where you all came from!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-27299028897160272552015-07-02T06:02:40.055-10:002015-07-02T06:02:40.055-10:00spears vs. bullets bullets win over spears. what...spears vs. bullets bullets win over spears. what would you do if you had a gun pointed at you knowing what the bullet is much faster than you can possibly run. Our Queen was in this predicament.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-71100931469639755402015-07-01T22:39:24.122-10:002015-07-01T22:39:24.122-10:00anyway you look at it, residents got screwed by ...anyway you look at it, residents got screwed by the TVR people backed by the then council. thankfully, today's council is willing to recognize past mistakes and has had the will to do something about it. Residents are putting aside their shyness and are beginning to speak. Meanwhile, Ross jest put the illegals on notice. Lookout, they be comin after you, shortly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-46413463693394287502015-07-01T17:15:59.876-10:002015-07-01T17:15:59.876-10:00It wasn't the planning dept that showed people...It wasn't the planning dept that showed people didn't qualify for the permits. It was the Abuse Chronicles. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-31731976023329050682015-07-01T16:59:34.046-10:002015-07-01T16:59:34.046-10:0012:29, your history on the TVR issue is just that...12:29, your history on the TVR issue is just that. It was proven by the planning department that in fact most of the permits that were issued did not meet the criteria to be grandfathered in. After Bynam's law allowed no inspections and gutted the previous version, it was a free for all. One good lawyer who used to be a county attorney office lawyer con-vinced the council of his theories.<br />So many other laws were broke in the process, but since they favored the property owners, the residents were made second class citizens in the residential areas with unequal rights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-87729192177960613072015-07-01T15:09:41.090-10:002015-07-01T15:09:41.090-10:0012:43PM wrote:
"The Hawaiians of today have t...12:43PM wrote:<br /><i>"The Hawaiians of today have their own beloved leaders to blame for the loss of their nation."</i><br /><br />Fascinating how, century in and century out, it's always so simple, so black-and-white. Hawaiians, Native Americans, Africans, Indians... it's always their fault that they lost: they're always too heathenish, too distracted by infighting, too backward, too greedy for power, too fill-in-the-blank (multiple choice, pick as many as you wish). <br /><br />And people say colonialism is dead.Dawsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38226000589882920012015-07-01T14:24:14.682-10:002015-07-01T14:24:14.682-10:00When people speak in public they risk exposing the...When people speak in public they risk exposing their true selves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-36209143590671422292015-07-01T14:22:40.195-10:002015-07-01T14:22:40.195-10:00Wondering if GMO made a remarkable drug that would...Wondering if GMO made a remarkable drug that would cure them, who would like use it to save their life?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-82807104259249088912015-07-01T12:43:39.545-10:002015-07-01T12:43:39.545-10:00Sorry 11:43 AM but Hawaii is a conquered nation mu...Sorry 11:43 AM but Hawaii is a conquered nation much like how the Normans conquered England in 1066, only without the violence and opposition. Hawaii's situation was more like a dear in the headlights. And didn't those Hawaii royals love dressing up and spending money like the European royalty? They even gave up their religion and kapu practices to be more European. About the only time The royals ever thought of their subjects was in the 1848 Mahele which allowed them to continue gathering their food in lands given to the King's ali'i buddies. Nice of them. Of course, with the Kuleana Act of 1850 they allowed the kanaka maole to petition to get title to their kuleana if they even knew about it or understood what they needed to do. The Hawaiians of today have their own beloved leaders to blame for the loss of their nation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-19688814126938774662015-07-01T12:33:50.929-10:002015-07-01T12:33:50.929-10:00Deaths from malnourishment in 2014: 3.1 million. ...Deaths from malnourishment in 2014: 3.1 million. Deaths from GMO food in the last 20 years: 0. <br />Lives saved by GMO crops: Estmated, 1billion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-32633339263914922422015-07-01T12:29:34.869-10:002015-07-01T12:29:34.869-10:0011:30 said "The county made a huge mistake wh...11:30 said "The county made a huge mistake when it previously grandfathered in illegal operations, as Ross said in the interview."<br /><br />I guess you weren't here during the lengthy deliberations made and legal advice received by the Council as it considered the TVR bill in 2008. In a rare avoidance taking an action over which it may be sued, the County Council grandfathered in those TVR's which had up to then been paying their taxes and whose structures were compliant with building codes. You probably don't know that the existing County laws up to 2008 regarding transient rentals only addressed MULTI-UNIT STRUCTURES and NOT single family homes. Comprende? So, to all of a sudden make a heretofore entirely legal enterprise illegal would have been not only challenged in Court but would have failed at considerable cost to the County...i.e. us taxpayers. The only TVR's which up to that point required a permit to operate were solely those on State-regulated agricultural lands as opposed to County-regulated urban lands. So, the County Council did what they had to do, albeit years too late, to begin limiting the growth of TVR's outside of designated visitor areas. Please read this over and over until it sinks in!<br />Manuahihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10935756151568533081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-69578927793105288342015-07-01T12:09:03.948-10:002015-07-01T12:09:03.948-10:00@11:26 AM
Sorry, that's not me. We are a famil...@11:26 AM<br />Sorry, that's not me. We are a family of mainland transplants who first arrived in the 70's and bought our place for under 50k, when prices were still within reach. I'm tired of being looked upon as a fresh off the boat haole. I think that what has happened in Haena is appalling. I'm just being realistic. What would a house, even in the ghetto, go for these days? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-33048941533819339322015-07-01T12:07:53.704-10:002015-07-01T12:07:53.704-10:00GARY told Ross to choose his words more carefully?...GARY told Ross to choose his words more carefully? Lol! GARY is so condescending! Ross If your reading this please do not worry. You make sense and people like you. Tell that lying, unethical hypocrite GARY in his own words to "bite me". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-60055352539108978262015-07-01T11:56:11.502-10:002015-07-01T11:56:11.502-10:00Perhaps Ross should have just said "bite me.&...Perhaps Ross should have just said "bite me." Would that address Gary's sensitivities?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-73129147948957163702015-07-01T11:43:22.089-10:002015-07-01T11:43:22.089-10:00Joan, the judge, and everyone else forgets that th...Joan, the judge, and everyone else forgets that these judicial opinions are the opinions of an illegal occupying colonialist power, so take no joy in the opinions of criminals imposing their laws in Hawaii.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-10480786412991677822015-07-01T11:30:52.046-10:002015-07-01T11:30:52.046-10:00Dont see anything wrong or "politically incor...Dont see anything wrong or "politically incorrect"with anything Ross said, that has not been said before: if the illegal TVRs are found to be truly illegal, AND the current owners decide that it is no longer in their economic interest to continue to own the property,then MAYBE the properties can be available for current local residents to purchase, and MAYBE, since the TVR misrepresentation is no longer there to induce an off island sale for the purposes of investment, THEN perhaps the sale price MIGHT be within reach of those who Yukimura is so sure"...most people here will not be able to afford those homes,”. Why are some of Ross' statements considered "prejudiced" and Yukimuri's is not?<br /> <br />The county made a huge mistake when it previously grandfathered in illegal operations, as Ross said in the interview. <br /><br />And Hooser, in his usual duplicitous fashion, has the nerve to wish Ross would "...choose his words more carefully." Wow! It's bizzaro world deja vu, all over again!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-8704783864796792872015-07-01T11:26:10.882-10:002015-07-01T11:26:10.882-10:00@ 8:55am
"Everybody is local if they feel th...@ 8:55am<br /><br />"Everybody is local if they feel that Kauai is their home.” Is an excellent statement as defining local by Kagawa. There is no racist remark here, as you claim. The comment is referencing living on Kauai vs investors who skyrocket the realestate price and defy the law in the process. I would venture to guess that you are an illegal vacation rental owner. So quit the race baiting. We bought that for the last 40 years but it doesn't work today. Clean up your back yard before commenting on others.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com