tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post4803203473902344070..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Gems and BlemsJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-22384404623527326462015-12-31T22:36:39.220-10:002015-12-31T22:36:39.220-10:00who is this Jung guy? His name pops up a lot conn...who is this Jung guy? His name pops up a lot connected to fix up jobs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-69559140844758591472015-12-15T13:21:17.820-10:002015-12-15T13:21:17.820-10:00Watch the second video. It's at 2:48:32.Watch the second video. It's at 2:48:32.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-54753874511119065022015-12-12T13:35:06.466-10:002015-12-12T13:35:06.466-10:00Just finished watching the entire Council meeting ...Just finished watching the entire Council meeting waiting for Hooser to say "bite me" but somehow I missed it? Can you direct me to the time slot or segment please? I want to put it on YouTube! He cannot keep getting away with this stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-87098434349566357472015-12-09T18:01:40.615-10:002015-12-09T18:01:40.615-10:00Convince the Council to restrict all future B&...Convince the Council to restrict all future B&Bs to the VDA. Takes care of all the problems. Simple, effective, fair and cheap. Common SenseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38770867508558055052015-12-09T18:00:56.397-10:002015-12-09T18:00:56.397-10:00Convince the Council to restrict all future B&...Convince the Council to restrict all future B&Bs to the VDA. Takes care of all the problems. Simple, effective, fair and cheap. Common SenseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-40128544735117358312015-12-09T17:46:38.996-10:002015-12-09T17:46:38.996-10:00Ag on Ag Land
Hotels in resort district
TVR'...<br />Ag on Ag Land <br />Hotels in resort district<br />TVR's in the VDA<br />And NO TVR's in conservation districts<br /><br />Anything else the County and/or State can frick up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-90783359973951323712015-12-09T15:52:56.042-10:002015-12-09T15:52:56.042-10:00One might also ask the state why they only selecti...One might also ask the state why they only selectively enforce no TVRs on conservation land? Are some people more politically connected than others? Or do some people have more money and they don't go after them? What could possibly be the reason the state and county have failed so miserably?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-79150872338215960772015-12-09T11:02:24.542-10:002015-12-09T11:02:24.542-10:00That's why the state of Hawaii AG should inves...That's why the state of Hawaii AG should investigate the county of Kauai for passing TVR's on AG lands and also grandfathering in illegal TVR's on AG land.<br /><br />If they can go after Mina Morita then why aren't they going after the obvious breaking state of Hawaii TVR laws?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-60784402172005126852015-12-09T10:07:07.956-10:002015-12-09T10:07:07.956-10:00OMG...."Yes." "No." "Ma...<br />OMG...."Yes." "No." "Maybe."<br /><br />She said her "TVR on AG land is permitted and legal."<br /><br />"No! Transient accommodations are not legal on ANY AG land."<br /><br /> Joan Conrow said...<br />"Yes, sadly, when the County Council amended the TVR law it permitted TVRs on ag land, so there are a number of very fancy and expensive TVRs on ag land with legal permits.<br /><br />The planning commission also approved several B&B/homestays on ag land."<br /><br />So Joan, it's "Yes, some are permitted and legal."<br /><br />So stupid.... They can amend the law for such an important thing as this,<br />But they "can't do anything about 'grandfathering' - because "we'd have to change state law."<br /><br />Grandfathering is our downfall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-42544039900674883272015-12-08T21:14:45.850-10:002015-12-08T21:14:45.850-10:00No, the TVR's on AG land are not legal, the st...No, the TVR's on AG land are not legal, the state law prohibits overnight accommodations on AG landAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38966688001613671162015-12-08T18:03:31.963-10:002015-12-08T18:03:31.963-10:00
OK
One more time:
Are TVRs legal on AG land?
And...<br />OK<br />One more time:<br />Are TVRs legal on AG land?<br /><br />And, the day of Council gifted Michelle Hughes with her grandfathered permits, was that the day she wore that<br />stupid red dress?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88201086953019927972015-12-08T09:04:06.363-10:002015-12-08T09:04:06.363-10:0010:48 you don't have it straight at all,10:48 you don't have it straight at all,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-87567667924981950272015-12-08T08:02:14.392-10:002015-12-08T08:02:14.392-10:00TVRs are prohibited on any land zoned ag. For pu...TVRs are prohibited on any land zoned ag. For purposes of the zoning code bad and good ag lands are meaningless. If you object to this travesty, say so!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11473888149012443262015-12-08T08:01:46.210-10:002015-12-08T08:01:46.210-10:00TVRs are prohibited on any land zoned ag. For pu...TVRs are prohibited on any land zoned ag. For purposes of the zoning code bad and good ag lands are meaningless. If you object to this travesty, say so!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-14312523111629790812015-12-08T04:39:35.406-10:002015-12-08T04:39:35.406-10:00Isn't this about the time Joann started talkin...<br />Isn't this about the time Joann started talking about "good ag and bad ag"?<br />So TVRs can only receive permits on "bad ag"?<br /><br />(We all thought Joann had friends that already had illegal TVRs on "bad ag")<br /><br />"Hugh's got approval for their ag venture then turned around and sold it for a fortune" and "under the guidance of Ian Jung they got TVR permits for life."<br /><br />Shameful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-85775745506866755462015-12-07T22:48:41.261-10:002015-12-07T22:48:41.261-10:00I think I have this straight.
Originally, the S...I think I have this straight. <br /><br />Originally, the State had legal jurisdiction over all ag lands and under State law TVR's were not permitted on ag land. But then the State didn't want jurisdiction over every tiny piece of ag land particularly those not well-suited for agriculture. So it told the Counties to ID which were "important" ag lands and which were not and gave the latter over to the Counties' jurisdiction. This gave the Counties the power to grant TVR permits on them that they lacked before as was done on Kauai.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-21198155026291022092015-12-07T21:40:18.262-10:002015-12-07T21:40:18.262-10:00Definitely time to stop the give away of residenti...Definitely time to stop the give away of residential and agricultural properties,time to correct the wrong advice and actions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-86462911996589208292015-12-07T13:56:41.232-10:002015-12-07T13:56:41.232-10:00Jung's name pops up more and more in connectio...Jung's name pops up more and more in connection with years of free passes the County has given to vacation rentals. Another poster said its time to stop giving in to these guys at the expense of residents and farmers. How many out there agree its time to stop the giveaway?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-16924995654689165112015-12-07T08:40:49.013-10:002015-12-07T08:40:49.013-10:00People like the Huges got approval for their AG re...People like the Huges got approval for their AG resort ventures then turned around and sold them for a fortune. The fucked up thing is that under guidance from ian Jung , they got permits for life. Their illegal activities were made legal by an unprecedented and illegal actions of the county that decided to skip the state law and approve vacation rentals on fake AG land. So much BS went on in those years with a complicit planning commission that failed to do their job. The law that allows these TVRs on agriculture land should be changed,it's not enough to just ban B&Bs on AG .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-87885097894569854712015-12-07T07:48:18.633-10:002015-12-07T07:48:18.633-10:00yeah. the joke's on usyeah. the joke's on usAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-14287671594640438832015-12-07T06:30:36.034-10:002015-12-07T06:30:36.034-10:00EVERYONE knows that TVRs were prohibited on AG lan...<br />EVERYONE knows that TVRs were prohibited on AG land.<br />That's why I'm sure all the ones that got permitted never, ever, rented their places out before they got approval.<br />Because if they did, Planning would NEVER reward them for breaking the law, now would they? Haha<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-58821630559227882632015-12-07T05:23:22.604-10:002015-12-07T05:23:22.604-10:00Yes, sadly, when the County Council amended the TV...Yes, sadly, when the County Council amended the TVR law it permitted TVRs on ag land, so there are a number of very fancy and expensive TVRs on ag land with legal permits.<br /><br />The planning commission also approved several B&B/homestays on ag land.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-26067828148761669382015-12-07T05:07:50.657-10:002015-12-07T05:07:50.657-10:00A friend of mine was at a dinner, and was a little...<br />A friend of mine was at a dinner, and was a little baffled when the host said she has a "legal, permitted TVR on AG Land." My friend said simply, that she may have one, but that HE didn't know of ANY TVRs on AG land that were permitted/legal.<br />So, does anyone know of any legal TVRs on AG land? <br />MahaloAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-26995854892093095032015-12-06T20:00:50.857-10:002015-12-06T20:00:50.857-10:00vacation rentals be they TVRs or B&Bs should h...vacation rentals be they TVRs or B&Bs should have never been allowed outside the VDA. Instead of enforcing the zoning code the county has in the name of "fairness" repeatedly allowed exceptions by grandfathering illegals and passing laws that provide a path for unwanted short term rentals to skirt zoning and get permits to operate in residential areas and on ag land. where is the fairness when a well heeled transplant can buy an house next to you and get a permit to run a B&B even though zoning doesn't allow it? Fairness seems to be for the haoles not the kamaainas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-28449087428693087562015-12-06T16:12:50.416-10:002015-12-06T16:12:50.416-10:00"I'll see what I can find out re: a law s..."I'll see what I can find out re: a law specifically prohibiting the short term rental of a room in your home."<br /><br />I did. Here is what my lawyer said (paraphrased), which is less than clear.<br /><br />"There is not any law specifically prohibiting short or long term renting of a bedroom (in residential-zoned land). But commerce is generally forbidden in residential lands so both could technically be seen as illegal - just because of the money trading hands in a residential neighborhood. If an aggressive planning department wanted to crack down on all commerce in residential lands it could - going after short or long term rentals. Technically, renting a bedroom long term is just as illegal as renting a bedroom short term. But its best to get a use permit before you rent your extra room because what the government turns its fangs toward can change on a mob's whim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com