tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post538039702397517274..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Planet in PerilJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-40439873994978800532016-04-07T22:07:59.260-10:002016-04-07T22:07:59.260-10:00The key to solving weather issues is teleKInetic, ...The key to solving weather issues is teleKInetic, meaning theurgy and thaumaturgy.<br /><br />All Is Mind. Peace.John Robert Martinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08069123473163625094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-31268924258619465352016-03-24T15:23:57.314-10:002016-03-24T15:23:57.314-10:00overpopulation is often code for 'too many peo...<i>overpopulation is often code for 'too many people in the developing world.' </i><br /><br />I agree. Your initial comment wasn't clear to me.John Kauaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709115908711629306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-77803939208011406372016-03-24T14:29:22.297-10:002016-03-24T14:29:22.297-10:00John -- It seems you're so eager to get your p...John -- It seems you're so eager to get your point of view out there that you try to conduct both sides of the conversation.<br /><br />What I'm saying is, overpopulation is often code for 'too many people in the developing world.' The reality is that people in the West, especially Americans, consume far more than their share of the world's resources, especially energy. Yes, population control is required. We're in agreement there. But in the meantime, we're on a trajectory for more than 11 billion. So your bit about "If there weren't so many people then we could consume what we want and burn what we want and maybe everyone could live on their own island" is totally irrelevant. Given population realities, we who have so much need to look at reducing our consumption, or face the unpleasant fact that we're relegating billions to a marginal existence.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-91191864273326892462016-03-24T14:15:41.312-10:002016-03-24T14:15:41.312-10:00gotta love the pro lifer goons who want to turn th...gotta love the pro lifer goons who want to turn their backs on the rest of the children of the world and domestically borne children as well by not funding schools housing or medical needs. pro life policies have nothing TO do with life and everything to do with death poverty homelessness and the deterioration of humanity. as long as they can hold a gun drink a beer eat fast food die for the country pray on their knees know their place and obey the white master race laws these so called saved children will live otherwise these pro-lifers have nothing to do with living and everything to do with hate and ready to cull from the earth those they see as others these religious beliefs drive the increase in worldwide suffering just as much as war does. i ask all of you if life is so precious to you how can you turn away a child fleeing from horrific atrocities? Seriously start OWNING UP TO THE FACT THAT MANKINDs RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGIES ARE DESTROYING THIS PLANET.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-75081022086460386462016-03-24T14:12:37.513-10:002016-03-24T14:12:37.513-10:00Sure Joan,
There are several factors, but in the...Sure Joan, <br /><br />There are several factors, but in the end which one do you want to concentrate on? Are you saying we should all "just get along" and not be so selfish? OK.<br /><br />Are you saying industry should be more efficient so it doesn't generate as much greenhouse gas? OK.<br /><br />Are you saying that everyone should become a vegetarian so the energy required to raise (for example) beef won't be expended? OK<br /><br />Are you saying the wealthy nations should share with the rest of the world? OK.<br /><br />These are only holding actions.<br /><br />If there weren't so many people then we could consume what we want and burn what we want and maybe everyone could live on their own island. One's quality of life depends on the number of people living in one's "space".<br /><br />At some point, if population control is not practiced, it won't matter what other actions are taken to solve these problems. At some point, over population will start to solve itself with wars and starvation. Yes, it is as simple as that.<br /><br />Couldn't one's insistence on his "right" to have as many children as desired be considered "greed in a different form"? John Kauaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709115908711629306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-59437598281274407942016-03-24T11:16:30.305-10:002016-03-24T11:16:30.305-10:00the overpopulation of the planet is at fault.
Th...<i> the overpopulation of the planet is at fault. </i><br /><br />That's way too simplistic. It's primarily consumption patterns, driven by the wealthiest nations.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-49239120894506279832016-03-24T11:10:06.620-10:002016-03-24T11:10:06.620-10:00Here are a couple of articles from "The Natio...Here are a couple of articles from "The Nation" on Climate Change. The first is written by James Hansen warning of the dangers of Methane that has increased dramatically because of fracking. The second discusses the author's struggle with whether or not to have children and provides a perspective on the nature of the Population Bomb that has been ignored for the last 50 years as our world is on track for over 9 Billion people by 2050. <br /><br />Climate Change is man made and the overpopulation of the planet is at fault. <br /><br />7:03 apparently thinks that because China and other nations produce more warming gases than Kauai that Kauai should do nothing? The change is happening. The county needs to consider how to move Kapaa as it becomes flooded. If you think traffic is bad now...<br /><br /><br />Global Warming’s Terrifying New Chemistry<br />http://www.thenation.com/article/global-warming-terrifying-new-chemistry/<br /><br /><br />How Do You Decide to Have a Baby When Climate Change Is Remaking Life on Earth?<br />http://www.thenation.com/article/how-do-you-decide-to-have-a-baby-when-climate-change-is-remaking-life-on-earth/<br /><br />John Kauaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709115908711629306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-84286149138423118132016-03-24T11:08:30.555-10:002016-03-24T11:08:30.555-10:00Typical of some commentators to careen off a pali ...Typical of some commentators to careen off a pali to a different subject. The discussion is climate change not council salaries so put down the Trump signs and stop goose stepping for just one nano-second and try to keep up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38296406920228319422016-03-24T10:38:41.661-10:002016-03-24T10:38:41.661-10:00TGI reporting on the Hilario murder conviction bei...TGI reporting on the Hilario murder conviction being overturned is 4 days late.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-42242460312418495742016-03-24T10:36:02.473-10:002016-03-24T10:36:02.473-10:00Melvin is too scared because people have shot on h...Melvin is too scared because people have shot on him and has other matters that he needs to tend to. So he's keeping a low profile because he knows what could go down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-12083876573708048572016-03-24T10:31:05.038-10:002016-03-24T10:31:05.038-10:00When has the county of Kauai standards been adequa...When has the county of Kauai standards been adequate?<br /><br />What kind of services have they provided that you so proudly speak of? Except for EBT and quest applications that bankrupt the state and raises the taxes for everyone else.<br /><br />We the people of Kauai have suffered from unqualified/under qualified family members on council and in the admin for 40 or more years.<br /><br />One of the so called Dept head wants a 15K raise from their 100K salary is ridiculous. 15% raise? And in the private sector they get a 1% raise then the county and state wants to raise vehicle tax, gas tax, registration, and GE tax. That 1% raise is already spent on county and state idiots.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-39548356166227647752016-03-24T09:55:21.297-10:002016-03-24T09:55:21.297-10:00Kauai and the rest of Hawaii is dependent on an in...Kauai and the rest of Hawaii is dependent on an industry that has a huge carbon footprint. If humanity somehow reverses course and gets serious about climate change, then Kauai will be in for some hard economic times. If the world continues to spew carbon emissions at anywhere near current levels, Kauai will be screwed environmentally. Party on, indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-49967275466260671442016-03-24T09:34:59.210-10:002016-03-24T09:34:59.210-10:00Every county, city, country no matter how small wi...Every county, city, country no matter how small will have to deal with climate change and yes every body makes a difference. every car, every law, every house, etc... Especially on a small island. We have unique issues and need excellent leaders to serve the people. Not to serve the council members. To serve the people! I think the council members have forgotten that and they're not fulfilling thier purpose of representing the people. They're only representing thier own interests and political agendas. "Lack of leadership Kauai" Mason is right. What a shame. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-40163632289987835612016-03-24T09:28:17.802-10:002016-03-24T09:28:17.802-10:00Councilmembers are not only the second highest pai...Councilmembers are not only the second highest paid in the state, but they also get another $6,000 a year for phone and mileage. They got their raises when the Mayor froze his staff's salaries. With this car and phone allowance, they are making nearly 3/4 the pay of department heads but only have half-time jobs. Ross Kagawa actually has a fulltime position as a teacher, so clearly he cannot be working more than half-time as a councilmember. Listening to Kipukai publicly state that he works as hard as the Mayor and wants $100,000 too was ridiculous. Yesterday's decision on the executive salaries was another penny-wise, pound-foolish decision. Why even have a Salary Commission when it's clear that Council feels they are the experts in this area? Maybe the real solution is that we need to pay our councilmembers more so that we can actually attract new members that have a IQ over 80. Morons and buffoons, that's what we have as leadership at Council. One thing is for sure, it's time for Kauai's citizens to lower their expectations (even further) on the level of government services. Taxpayers will certainly get what they pay for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-19093695634700711772016-03-24T07:25:48.064-10:002016-03-24T07:25:48.064-10:00As a mainlander who frequents Kauai and keeps curr...As a mainlander who frequents Kauai and keeps current on Kauai affairs, one thing I've noticed is that Kauai disproportionately attracts nuts of all flavors. Those who are pro-GMO and side with Joan on the pesticide debate, will then drop science and make nonsense statements when it comes to global warming. Those who are anti-GMO and on the opposite side of Joan on pesticides, will then take up the mantle of science and proclaim that those who deny global warming are anti-science and are morons, which they indisputably are if they deny man-induced global warming. Kauai is an interesting place. Joan strikes me as someone who does not have an agenda but simply goes where the science and data leads. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-20499643165498440272016-03-24T07:03:27.457-10:002016-03-24T07:03:27.457-10:00Pure madness. Do you really believe the tiny islan...Pure madness. Do you really believe the tiny island of Kauai can make any difference with climate anything? Look at India, China, Mexico,Brazil and Russia first. Does critical thinking no longer exist? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-33854232218911231422016-03-24T06:52:29.281-10:002016-03-24T06:52:29.281-10:007:24
The leaders are paid well. Add in the terrifi...7:24<br />The leaders are paid well. Add in the terrific bennies and the extreme power and no can get fired, it is a dream job.<br />The fault is in the Council and Mayor. No plans for the future. Whilst the Mayor proclaims that 6 or so Bus Stops is a terrific achievement, a main achievement for the island, one chokes on one's coffee. We have a budget with fed, state and county money of over 200 million.<br />The Rotary Club could build 6 bus stops in 3 afternoons. A joke.<br />The Council must got to big land and work with them in bringing some zoning so we can build homes. <br />We need homes, roads and fewer county workers,<br />No vision, no plan, no nothing..................come on Mel, you have the power to do ANYTHING to the budget, ANYTHING...you are in control. Lets see some action...otherwise your run for Mayor will resemble your terms as Councilman, a big, fat limp Di^k...no substance, no strength,a flaccid forgettable little thing, no steel, just big talk and little do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-77168693051077120382016-03-23T19:37:27.583-10:002016-03-23T19:37:27.583-10:00All planets in the solar system are warming. Plane...All planets in the solar system are warming. Planet Earth is warming from the center. The increase in number and intensity volcanoes and earthquakes is off charts. It will only get more catastrophic as our Suns binary twin, a back star or brown dwarf has now entered the inter solar system. This our governments greatest secret because they only plan for the elite to be allowed into the underground ark cites. Check the facts yourself, look for Planet X or Nibiru on YouTube. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-44665389620220642052016-03-23T19:24:31.777-10:002016-03-23T19:24:31.777-10:00You know what's in peril? The county leadershi...You know what's in peril? The county leadership. In order to deal with these challenges like climate change, viability of ag and enforcing land use laws they need to hire and keep, attract and retain the best and brightest. Don't be surprised with dipshit department heads if you pay them dipshit salaries. Expect a circus if your paying them peanuts. Meanwhile currently the council is the second highest paid in the state. They only give them selves raises and no one else. All the department heads are the lowest paid in state. I watched it on the internet today and was appalled at Mason Chock for changing his vote. Lack of leadership Kauai. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-15138660106577099812016-03-23T19:07:40.571-10:002016-03-23T19:07:40.571-10:00Given that every fish you eat is full of plastic a...<br />Given that every fish you eat is full of plastic and therefore you are to:<br /><br />http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/35291-not-a-fish-tale-humans-are-ingesting-plastic-thanks-to-ocean-pollution<br /><br />My comment there also applies here:<br /><br />"A long, long, long time ago I was taking the "Iowa Test of Basic Skills". I still clearly recall the Newspaper headline in the test that was part of the reading comprehension test. (Must have been Third Grade.) "World Population nears 3 Billion".<br /><br />If this story about plastic concerns you, you might want to contribute to Planned Parenthood."<br /><br />As far as the comments about one's family and the jobs that won't be there, that is true. Most $15/hour jobs are going to be done by robots in the next couple of decades. There are already restaurant chains that have no clerks. You use an iPad to place your order and then you swipe your credit card. You can't use cash.<br /><br />Surely many of you have read those Sci-Fi stories about the huge domes built to house humanity -- except most of humanity wasn't let inside.<br /><br />Yes, climate change has been around since "forever", and often when it changed many species went extinct. Many others just barely survived.<br /><br />This world cannot sustain a human population of 7 Billion people. <br />John Kauaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709115908711629306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-40894331174447302642016-03-23T17:17:32.546-10:002016-03-23T17:17:32.546-10:00No worries about the beaches & tourism. The b...No worries about the beaches & tourism. The beaches will just move mauka and the State will continue to own up to the highest wash of the waves. Party on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-4776790036980672742016-03-23T16:06:43.347-10:002016-03-23T16:06:43.347-10:00Pandora opened the jar and all the evils flew out,...Pandora opened the jar and all the evils flew out, leaving only Hope inside once she had closed it again.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-77283683838240358162016-03-23T12:22:25.488-10:002016-03-23T12:22:25.488-10:00Yeah politicians stopped the tradwewinds and rain....Yeah politicians stopped the tradwewinds and rain. The laws of physics are upon us all the live long day, the laws of physics are upon us no matter what the deniers say. Can't you feel the humid weather early in the morn, can't you see the streams a dying denier blow your horn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-62073451788036511502016-03-23T12:22:05.124-10:002016-03-23T12:22:05.124-10:00I agree with Joan on this posting a hundred percen...I agree with Joan on this posting a hundred percent.Now only Neanderthals deny global warming. Excellent job Joan. Man has accelerated the natural cycle of global warming. A one celled amoeba can grasp that concept. The rest are just floating in a sea of their own noxious hot gases. Aloha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-82668838902543468972016-03-23T12:16:20.260-10:002016-03-23T12:16:20.260-10:00GLOBAL WARMING SKEPTICS ARE NOT GLOBAL WARMING DEN...GLOBAL WARMING SKEPTICS ARE NOT GLOBAL WARMING DENIERS<br /><br />Promoters of the hypothesis of human-induced global warming and their alarmist compatriots often refer to skeptics as global warming deniers. It’s an odd label for skeptics, because most of the prominent skeptics do not deny that the Earth has warmed or that climate changes. In fact we illustrate those facts in almost every blog post and article we prepare. Most skeptics understand:<br />1) humans changed Earth’s environment<br />2)man-made greenhouse gases contribute to the warming of the atmosphere, and<br />3) humans have contributed to climate change in many other ways.<br />However, most prominent skeptics are:<br />1) NOT convinced that mankind is responsible for most of the global warming we’ve experienced,<br />2) NOT convinced future global warming will lead to additional climate catastrophes, and:<br />3) Definitely NOT convinced that the climate science community can attribute to mankind any of the global warming and changes in climate we’ve experienced...because their models cannot simulate the basic natural processes that can cause global warming or stop it cold. From Bob Tisdale's (free) book: On Global Warming and the Illusion of Control.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com