tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post5521011726883157621..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Fantasy IslandJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-14742486336818484652016-06-27T11:13:53.621-10:002016-06-27T11:13:53.621-10:00The first "missionaries" of old arrived ...The first "missionaries" of old arrived here to do good AND THEY DID VERY WELL. The new "missionaries" of today arrive because they saw the beauty of our Islands while on a week holiday plan and said "Honey, we just have to go back home, sell the farm and move over here to help these poor LOCALS make changes because the roads are too narrow and need freeways - the mom and pop stores only have local goods and badly in need of mega shopping malls with BIG BOX stores - Local families live in nice homes with large yards and in need of multi level super dwellings so their families will have a place to live - on and on and on. Had enough preaching!!! <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-67130087783960104202015-04-01T16:48:31.662-10:002015-04-01T16:48:31.662-10:00I have seen very few foreigners, even in the big c...I have seen very few foreigners, even in the big cities. Maybe 12 tops. but I do believe tourism is a part of their economy. not sure about homestays but most foreigners would probably prefer the nice hotelsJoan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-3646601252905816172015-04-01T16:23:00.336-10:002015-04-01T16:23:00.336-10:00So Joan, the photos from your trip are wonderful-b...So Joan, the photos from your trip are wonderful-but I don't see any of other visitors like yourself. Are you a minority there? or are there lots more and you just choose not to take pics of them. Just curious if visitors provide a portion of their income there like they do for residents of Kauai and if so do they allow homestays and vacation homes in India?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-50934768022586862482015-03-28T20:12:02.722-10:002015-03-28T20:12:02.722-10:00amen, 4:01amen, 4:01Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-5324192695568856572015-03-24T16:01:09.795-10:002015-03-24T16:01:09.795-10:00If the homes are purchased by the well heeled who ...If the homes are purchased by the well heeled who don't need vacation rental income, then there'd be less tourists and more empty homes along the coast, hence less pollution from leaching cesspools and septic systems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-82981364909753946522015-03-23T14:20:45.546-10:002015-03-23T14:20:45.546-10:00Every property along that coast contains cultural ...Every property along that coast contains cultural material.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-14053602198420307302015-03-21T09:30:45.764-10:002015-03-21T09:30:45.764-10:00Com'n 12:18
Stop side stepping the issue. ...Com'n 12:18<br /><br />Stop side stepping the issue. Trying to justify the presence of TVRs in neighborhoods, except for those previously given non conforming status, is hogwash. There is NO justification for breaking the law. Even for the almighty dollar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11700678273544812412015-03-20T12:18:53.287-10:002015-03-20T12:18:53.287-10:007:17 - The reason every other home in haeena and h...7:17 - The reason every other home in haeena and hanalei is a vacation rental is because that is how their owners can offset some of the cost of these homes. And if they were no longer TVR's, these homes would simply be sold to an even wealthier group of 2nd home purchasers who wouldn't even NEED the income from TVR's. The result would be is no GET\TAT revenue,a lower property tax base, far fewer tourists spending money in the Hanalei are, and about 500-1000 more unemployed workers statewide - and probably not a single home made more affordable for the local workforce - a very high price to pay for satisfying the local anti-TVR bloodlust.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-43627077107379887292015-03-20T11:41:33.133-10:002015-03-20T11:41:33.133-10:00to 7:01, the iwi are under the steps, under the be...to 7:01, the iwi are under the steps, under the bedroom, under the house, under the landscaping...everywhere there at Naue. He was forced by the Supreme Court decision to setback the house properly and in doing so the 31 known burials that would have been built over changed to 7. No respect at all.Ask him why the footings of the house are so shallow?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-45219273156492831902015-03-20T08:59:49.649-10:002015-03-20T08:59:49.649-10:00The point is that even if TVR's were eliminate...The point is that even if TVR's were eliminated, there are so many wealthy people who want to own homes here, regular folks would be priced-out regardless. Individual lots in the old neighborhoods would slowly be sold and redeveloped for or by higher end owners. If you want to blame someone, you can blame all those local residents who have cashed-in their former homes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-25567261568680535272015-03-20T08:48:39.964-10:002015-03-20T08:48:39.964-10:00PS - With the growing influx of wealthy property b...PS - With the growing influx of wealthy property buyers, vacation rentals may become the only way, less financially endowed folks will be able to experience living the beach life. Moderate income residents won't be able to buy (or rent long term) these luxury properties.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-25501949118181080722015-03-20T08:42:25.638-10:002015-03-20T08:42:25.638-10:0010:22 and 7:05 are correct. Money will trump ever...10:22 and 7:05 are correct. Money will trump everything when it comes to property ownership on Kauai’s best properties. If you think otherwise, you are sadly delusional or just plain oblivious. There are so many wealthy people out there in the world; not just America, that are discovering Kauai. It’s happened everywhere in the U.S. where it’s a desirable place to live or own. The wealthy will bid up prices to levels only they can afford. Not that I condone this; it’s just reality. Please show me why this won’t happen here. It’s already happening and it isn’t over yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-90785104576214944962015-03-20T07:50:15.653-10:002015-03-20T07:50:15.653-10:00Oh really 7:17 ?
Then how come every other resid...Oh really 7:17 ?<br /><br />Then how come every other residence in Hanalei and all the best spots along the coast to Ke'e are vacation rentals? Speaking about realities and using TVRs as a scapegoat. The for real reality is, the zoning is residential !! You know - the law of the land.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-23383869216082705762015-03-20T07:44:09.787-10:002015-03-20T07:44:09.787-10:00Suckerberg - I love liberals. They love to tell th...Suckerberg - I love liberals. They love to tell the masses how to live but his own beliefs that he wants to force on us don't apply to him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-10296445646120396432015-03-20T07:17:30.511-10:002015-03-20T07:17:30.511-10:00@ 8:10 you are so right, but some only see it the ...@ 8:10 you are so right, but some only see it the way the want to see it rather than the reality of the situation. Everyone wants someone to blame, and vacation rentals are the escape goat. But your right the cost of housing is a result of our beauty and desire to be here. Kauai was less attractive when it was hard to get here, and not much to offer once you arrived (other than the beauty and we were considered off the beaten path). Now that direct flights are constant, there are two service agencies to cater to private jets, we offer world class resorts, golf courses, great surf, and fine dinning, and the internet makes it easy for everything else. We are just like any other place in the world, except we have the beauty to offer as well along with great weather and waterfalls. Thats whats driving our prices, not vacation rentals. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-31912414232779849492015-03-20T07:01:24.789-10:002015-03-20T07:01:24.789-10:00Only a few under the house. most are in the back y...Only a few under the house. most are in the back yard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-49912536880674820882015-03-20T06:53:50.925-10:002015-03-20T06:53:50.925-10:00Funny Maui was the chosen resort for the rich a fe...Funny Maui was the chosen resort for the rich a few years ago, now over developed, they have moved on to develop Kauai for the rich and not so famous and once commercialized they move on to despoil the next place. Kauai deserves better planning. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-86934232200469793352015-03-20T06:48:09.476-10:002015-03-20T06:48:09.476-10:008:10, try criticizing the merits of the argument i...8:10, try criticizing the merits of the argument instead of attacking the person putting forth the argument. As I wrote, Haena and Hanalei would still primarily consist of very high priced second homes, and would be a place that tourists want to visit, even without vacation rentals. Like any town with a stunning world-class beach, It isn't going to become affordable workforce housing under any circumstances. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-15506793903151016732015-03-20T05:34:07.398-10:002015-03-20T05:34:07.398-10:00Have heard many Kauai folks grumbling about the cr...Have heard many Kauai folks grumbling about the crowded conditions wrought by too many tourists and these so-called "part-time residents" of our island. And their suggestion is usually "what this island needs is another hurricane". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-49521828263667344282015-03-19T21:31:29.939-10:002015-03-19T21:31:29.939-10:00"Best to embrace the change and manage it rat..."Best to embrace the change and manage it rather than fight it"<br /><br />8:10 - This is actually the complete quote. But in any case you're right; TVR owners and realtors really don't have a damn clue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-25503091603027291222015-03-19T20:18:01.784-10:002015-03-19T20:18:01.784-10:00OMG
4:23 really show how crazy he is todayOMG<br />4:23 really show how crazy he is todayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-76044158909803568142015-03-19T20:10:31.377-10:002015-03-19T20:10:31.377-10:00"Best to embrace the change rather than fight...<br /><br />"Best to embrace the change rather than fight it."<br /><br />10:22 and the last blogger (7:05) are either realtors or TVR owners. <br />In other words, neither one of them has a damned clue...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-60322052154427409232015-03-19T19:05:35.862-10:002015-03-19T19:05:35.862-10:00"Uh, except Hanalei was never supposed to be ..."Uh, except Hanalei was never supposed to be a resort — until the county let the vacation rental industry explode."<br /><br />Even without vacation rentals, these would be $$$homes. When you have a beach town that hosts one of the top five\ten beaches in the world, it's not going to stay undiscovered by those wanting 2nd homes for long. Vacation rental or not, it's going to be a resort town.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-6928617821006896482015-03-19T16:23:57.923-10:002015-03-19T16:23:57.923-10:00Joan- You have a talent...a real talent with words...Joan- You have a talent...a real talent with words. Thank you.<br />Zuckerberg will not influence anything on Kauai. He will have bodyguards patrolling, but he just wants to be left alone.<br />Holy Facebook Batman-we already know how much Zuckerberg has crawled into our lives.<br />Listening to the whining about the good days is sickening. Today, will be the good old days, soon.<br />Big Land could do whatever they want. It is their land and all the Fistees, JoAnns, MAsons, Garys and other f^ckin' Commie types will never penetrate Land and Power.<br />We are lucky that A&B, G&R and GF have not flexed their muscles. <br />But as Gary, Joann and their l'il Boy-san, Mason continue to bust Big Lands chops and try to tax them out of existence..the time will come when the owners will be forced to sell or develop. <br />All land changes hands. The County is an actual partner in all land ownership via it's property tax lien powers. <br />Get used to the big boys coming to Kauai. Get used to the locals being bought out and living in generational housing.<br />Soon the locals will find that the only affordable housing will be in government financed apartments. It is sickening.<br />If the County went to big land and agreed to a leniency formula in thethe County/JoAnn housing extortion...we would have some nice reasonably priced residences.<br />But, JoAnn et al and the Fisteef*ckers are intent on "tree lined, walking friendly, yoga inspiring, oh so sweet development" criteria that a simple little house will always be put of the reach of the working man...the working man/woman who just wants a dry, safe well lit house to raise their kids and live their life.<br />I may hit on JoAnn a little hard...but it is she (and now the Baboon Hooser and Twinky Mason) who put the fear of God into developers and made Housing an near unobtainable goal for locals.<br />But the rich will always come and Goat Cheese will never be a staple.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-28138358232345080612015-03-19T14:48:31.597-10:002015-03-19T14:48:31.597-10:00The Kaonohi Point house featured is the shameful ...The Kaonohi Point house featured is the shameful brescia house that was build on the Iwi kupuna.When the number of Iwi that were found in the archeology surveys is multiplied by the % of the lot surveyed, it was postulated that there are probably more than 300 Iwi buried beneath the house. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com