tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post6060485084505825486..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Absolutely SafeJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-27473654560244019812012-08-14T10:23:12.993-10:002012-08-14T10:23:12.993-10:00Thank you, Joan.
Your words always restore a littl...Thank you, Joan.<br />Your words always restore a little sanity.<br /><br />Re: PMRF an especially big mahalo to you.<br />It is interesting they believe they have the authority to be de facto cops. They might want to check on who really owns that land or better yet, let them continue and place the noose around their own red necks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-49571225992418314602012-08-14T07:42:35.873-10:002012-08-14T07:42:35.873-10:00Call DOCARE and they will tell you people can driv...Call DOCARE and they will tell you people can drive on the beach to and from a fishing spot. Legal Eagle, make sure you don't piss in the ocean:<br />No person shall urinate or defecate other<br />than at the place and toilet facility provided.<br /><br />Navy drives on beach all the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30101233968511889412012-08-14T07:26:41.979-10:002012-08-14T07:26:41.979-10:00Dear "Sea Lawyer" who posted at 6:58. D...Dear "Sea Lawyer" who posted at 6:58. Driving on the beach is ILLEGAL on STATE and FEDERAL property. Check out this code: Hawaiian State Statue 13-221-26. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-90160526028738622882012-08-14T06:58:30.849-10:002012-08-14T06:58:30.849-10:00Driving on the beach is allowed if going fishing. ...Driving on the beach is allowed if going fishing. It's legal to fight chickens you just can't bet or use gaffs and it's legal to ride in the back of a truck if you're over age 13. So quit shooting your mouth off. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-57970038632729891262012-08-14T06:26:58.072-10:002012-08-14T06:26:58.072-10:00Driving on the beach is against the law.
As are ot...Driving on the beach is against the law.<br />As are other traditional practices, burning leaf, fighting chickens riding inthe back of pickups.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-77694912461475872022012-08-13T21:58:36.178-10:002012-08-13T21:58:36.178-10:00Charley posted Walter's opinion on his blog! I...Charley posted Walter's opinion on his blog! It's factually accurate and based on Walter's flawless legal analysis, so it's no wonder that Charley took the trouble to post it. Watch out, Charley, Walter might be angling for your PR job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-61044726453619422372012-08-13T20:58:59.234-10:002012-08-13T20:58:59.234-10:00This is likely to be a division in perspective tha...This is likely to be a division in perspective that is insurmountable, but one would hope that a middle ground could be reached: one in which villainy is not automatically ascribed to one side and xenophobia or cultural absolutism assumed by the other. The landowner coup backed by the military a century ago was a dark stain on the history of the US, but the nation, the military, the world, and yes, the Hawaiian people who existed back then are not the same entities that exist today. Today, we all live as a nation, benefitting from one another, fighting our battles together, stumbling alongside one another into the future in what is generally a positive social direction. The past cannot be undone, and we cannot ignore the realities of a world which does lie under threats, threats which must be tested against and trained for to ensure all of our defense. The vast majority of military in the Hawaiian Islands treasure their time here and the bonds they forge in our communities. They don't see themselves as occupiers, and they cannot do anything about the inequities of the past. They can only follow the law and do their jobs as conscientiously, as respectfully, and as responsibly as they can. That is the reality in which we all live, not one of rapacious greed and gleeful laughter at those whose land has been taken, or warmongering and heedless destruction of the natural world. These are honorable men and women, families that treasure the Hawaiian community. Let us acknowledge that reality when we seek a common end to the issues of access and use of our beaches and lands. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-7920424369453806392012-08-13T19:45:21.470-10:002012-08-13T19:45:21.470-10:00Let's not forget that PMRF sits on Hawaiian Ki...Let's not forget that PMRF sits on Hawaiian Kingdom Crown lands which the state erroneously refers to as "ceded" lands. These lands were never ceded they were stolen. Today the military pays pennies to occupy this prime ocean front land and they act like they own it, the beach as well as offshore waters. What do they give in return? Restricted/off-limit access, missile launches exploding off of Ke one kani o Nohili, sonar testing and military war games that target Kaula and sink battleships in our ocean. They owe our community way more than the crumbs they throw.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-81366622213648439492012-08-13T19:41:51.487-10:002012-08-13T19:41:51.487-10:00Get off it. Nothing has changed. Navy still restri...Get off it. Nothing has changed. Navy still restricting access along thereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-32659052399805031242012-08-13T19:40:19.088-10:002012-08-13T19:40:19.088-10:00i smell paid trolls againi smell paid trolls againirknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-80885848605558777662012-08-13T18:57:00.627-10:002012-08-13T18:57:00.627-10:00There's a big lack of reading comprehension to...There's a big lack of reading comprehension today, people. We got what we've been fighting for: access to the state beaches fronting the base. That's a good measure of victory, but instead of lauding the relaxation, everybody's hauling out hoary old whipping posts on the military that might have been true in general in the past, but don't apply to the military today or to PMRF at all. How about we embrace a good neighbor that's seen it's way to doing the right thing? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-29633718790725981502012-08-13T18:47:09.451-10:002012-08-13T18:47:09.451-10:00"Dear left wing unicorns and rainbows...Kauai..."Dear left wing unicorns and rainbows...Kauai is a Military base...you are just a visitor."<br /><br />aint that the truth..but don't publish that in any tourism pamphlet..don't let them know that they're swimming in cyanide and bleach...you know the stuff they put on the reefs to get the fish to come out from hiding...<br /><br />hey..fish anyone? I'm hungry.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-77116804129103775142012-08-13T18:28:22.234-10:002012-08-13T18:28:22.234-10:00Who thought it would be possible to accelerate the...Who thought it would be possible to accelerate the end of the world as we know it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11700918110830373522012-08-13T16:03:54.069-10:002012-08-13T16:03:54.069-10:00It is as it should be.
It is as it should be.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-47896960518999093642012-08-13T15:27:38.414-10:002012-08-13T15:27:38.414-10:00Dear left wing unicorns and rainbows...Kauai is a ...Dear left wing unicorns and rainbows...Kauai is a Military base...you are just a visitor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-1263550418072085062012-08-13T13:59:05.171-10:002012-08-13T13:59:05.171-10:00The US military taketh; but does it giveth as well...The US military taketh; but does it giveth as well? And let's not forget that the Catholic church wrote the book on the structure of power and how to wield it. The US military/government has the power and will never relinguish it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-13891394935781598042012-08-13T11:36:34.040-10:002012-08-13T11:36:34.040-10:00Hey don't knock all Catholics. Many disapprov...Hey don't knock all Catholics. Many disapprove of Paul Ryan too. Catholic Bishops disapprove of his economic plan and so do nuns on the bus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-63053465707005659932012-08-13T10:48:57.684-10:002012-08-13T10:48:57.684-10:00PMRF
A place Navy guys go to vacation away from wi...PMRF<br />A place Navy guys go to vacation away from wife and kids....cigars, beer, and barbecue.<br />Nice little cottages<br />talk war....sports, and<br />keep locals out<br /><br />Join the military, kiss ass up the ladder of success.... and you too can have the privilege<br /><br />Dr ShibaiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com