tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post764480528660748713..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Elephant in the RoomJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-76770626223474787092012-06-20T16:40:42.557-10:002012-06-20T16:40:42.557-10:00Just why aren't both sustainable, if one defin...Just why aren't both sustainable, if one defines "sustainable" as including off-island supply lines?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-8415207958773093572012-06-20T08:28:28.582-10:002012-06-20T08:28:28.582-10:00Ae, tourism (a jewel of the economic dependence fo...Ae, tourism (a jewel of the economic dependence forced on Hawaiians) is one eye of the American monster, the other being the military and all its attendent evils. Neither one is sustainable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-56777463927368623772012-06-20T08:22:42.242-10:002012-06-20T08:22:42.242-10:00We can stop/limit the endless development of infra...We can stop/limit the endless development of infrastructure to accomodate tourism to control numbers. Hotels should be "encouraged" to provide shuttle services for their guests to/from airport and bus routes could be added to service tourist destinations. Capping the number of car rentals would facilitate usage of buses/shuttles. Limiting the number of vehicles per household would encourage more bus ridership, increasing routes/hours of service. Changes in mindset and behavior won't happen overnight but we should be weaning ourselves gradually from our over-dependence in preparation for the future when we won't have a choice!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11030858614238009422012-06-20T07:22:36.857-10:002012-06-20T07:22:36.857-10:00I believe it is impossible for the state of Hawaii...I believe it is impossible for the state of Hawaii to become self-sufficient given the size of resident population coupled with the additional average size of the tourist population, which cannot be "legislated away"...it's a free country, you know...<br /><br />We will always, always be tied to out-of-state providers regardless of the oil situation.<br /><br />There are now nuke-powered military ships. What makes you think that the future will not hold nuke-powered commercial freight vessels and possibly passenger vessels?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-43700899529049976082012-06-20T06:47:21.689-10:002012-06-20T06:47:21.689-10:00The basic, fundamental, fact is that Hawaii will n...The basic, fundamental, fact is that Hawaii will never have sustainablity when it is dependent on fossil fuels to transport tourists here or to support the military ships, vehicles, airplanes.<br /><br />The total structure of the Hawaii economy is based upon fossil fuels, which are not inherently sustainable.<br />We need to focus on being self sufficient and that will lead to sustainability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-60162548170476131552012-06-19T20:17:11.763-10:002012-06-19T20:17:11.763-10:00You are right....Joan.
Sustainability has become a...You are right....Joan.<br />Sustainability has become a "cheap" buzz word. Means nothing any more just like the word "natural"....<br />oil is natural.<br /><br />Its all smoke and mirrors in politics....hypocrisy as usual.<br /><br />No bees....no food.<br /><br />Got pesticides and GMO....got no bees? Duh? Wonder why? Such a mystery. Let investigate if at the U of H.<br /><br />Look to the big money donors for the answer... that support our governor and the local bureaucrats .... such as Monsanto and company.....the key to the bee decline is sitting in our own backyards.<br /><br /><br />Dr. ShibaiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-91580711127299976682012-06-19T17:19:51.489-10:002012-06-19T17:19:51.489-10:00Tourism dollars are good but a diversified economy...Tourism dollars are good but a diversified economy is great for everyone. Just saying as a parent would you just buy one item and force feed your children that everyday or would you have a different assortment of foods to keep your family healthy, happy and strong. Dont buy into the junk that their feeding you, choice is what they dont want you to have. Say No to GMOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88472392346616225722012-06-19T16:39:12.723-10:002012-06-19T16:39:12.723-10:00Where's the money going to come from if you si...Where's the money going to come from if you significantly reduce tourism?<br /><br />People earning on-island money from on-island employers, spending on-island money to buy on-island goods (what there is of them...mostly off-island goods being bought).<br /><br />Just circulating the same stuff.<br /><br />BTW - Castle & Cook is selling the island of Lanai. Maybe they could use the money to buy Kauai and solve all this BS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88722214230233144532012-06-19T12:44:40.359-10:002012-06-19T12:44:40.359-10:00Unplug all of your devices when not in use. Everyt...Unplug all of your devices when not in use. Everything that is not in use! If you have it plugged in it generates electricity. Get energy star appliances and you can also use garden solar lights for your house lighting. Dry your close on lines or at laundry mats and use hot water sparingly. You will save 100 dollars a month 1,200 Dollars a yr, I did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-78478591338743685452012-06-19T12:37:08.667-10:002012-06-19T12:37:08.667-10:00Just read TGI and even the friendship house has a ...Just read TGI and even the friendship house has a garden like KCCC. Too bad we dont have smarter people in government. Stop hiring your cousins, friends, family, girlfriends, fathers girlfriends, and the rest of the incompetents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-59099571657193200982012-06-19T12:15:55.190-10:002012-06-19T12:15:55.190-10:00The reference was to "2,700 households like ...The reference was to "2,700 households like mine" -- as in one person. I recognize larger households have bigger bills. But still, I hope you got my point: resorts suck a lot of energy!Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-10387109414709964982012-06-19T12:01:21.079-10:002012-06-19T12:01:21.079-10:00In what universe does 2700 homes average $111/mont...In what universe does 2700 homes average $111/month electricity?? We (family of 4) live modestly with CFL's, no AC, etc and our electric bill is 300-350/month. I blame our stupid electric water heater but landlord makes that call.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-11993908976595069062012-06-19T11:45:14.455-10:002012-06-19T11:45:14.455-10:00at 9:25 AM
Hilarious!at 9:25 AM<br /><br />Hilarious!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-52167358139126099652012-06-19T11:18:29.052-10:002012-06-19T11:18:29.052-10:00Easy put a cap on rental cars! The county use to h...Easy put a cap on rental cars! The county use to have a cap but greed like always changes people and infects their decisions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-21697997683373327952012-06-19T09:42:03.173-10:002012-06-19T09:42:03.173-10:00Ha ha! You got it right Joan! I'm tired of t...Ha ha! You got it right Joan! I'm tired of the abuse of the word "sustainability" too. Developers are generally the worst abusers. And you're right, tourists need to be reined in! Put them on a bus instead of clogging up our roads!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-34760676998784011562012-06-19T09:39:29.994-10:002012-06-19T09:39:29.994-10:00During the Depression the aveage American citizen ...During the Depression the aveage American citizen realized that they cannot trust or rely on their own government. In the past 50 years America has had a recession in every decade, something is starting to get suspicious about how our country is being Controlled. Our County is trying to replicate the demise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-70866070499511387082012-06-19T09:31:28.158-10:002012-06-19T09:31:28.158-10:00MLK had a dream so why can't we live it the su...MLK had a dream so why can't we live it the sustainability dream. It's because all men are evil and the good are too busy, that's why our dream must not be lost. We must fight and never give up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88388496209800008172012-06-19T09:27:57.825-10:002012-06-19T09:27:57.825-10:00The county should lease the lands that they got ne...The county should lease the lands that they got near the airport as gardens for farmers markets. KCC has leaders that could help Kauai move to a more food sustainable community. We cannot put all of our eggs in the tourism basket, have we not learned from the collapse of the banks, housing markets, inflation of food prices, gas, electricity, travel and other expenses. I guest most don't remember what a hurricane did or can do to us in all aspects of life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-89056468121204996412012-06-19T09:25:34.719-10:002012-06-19T09:25:34.719-10:00sustainability is just one of those buzzwords that...sustainability is just one of those buzzwords that gets tossed around in every day conversation on this island. same goes for ethics, sunshine, and aloha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-91327826812038272562012-06-19T09:21:08.453-10:002012-06-19T09:21:08.453-10:00Hydro Electricity has always been cheaper than Sol...Hydro Electricity has always been cheaper than Solar and Oil. If we can use solar, wind, hydro, and oil to help reduce our carbon footprint and reduce our costs then we are moving in the right direction. We need Balance to have a sustainable future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com