tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post7836983885817401187..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Desperate SituationJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-6831976654839506092015-08-29T10:14:52.112-10:002015-08-29T10:14:52.112-10:00Having worked at PMRF and flown in Navy helicopter...Having worked at PMRF and flown in Navy helicopters for many years I know that flying military aircraft over the island is discouraged. If P3 aircraft were flying low over Hanalei town they were sight seeing and should be reported. Spraying chemicals? Give me a break. Lilley is a nut.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-81259906295243573142015-08-26T16:17:16.996-10:002015-08-26T16:17:16.996-10:00The planes in question are based on Oahu and use a...The planes in question are based on Oahu and use all of the islands for practice exercises. We see the same P-3 aircraft doing practice passes over Kona all the time. I have probably seen the exact aircraft in the photo more than once passing by my place in Waikoloa or parked on the hardstands at KOA.<br />Andrew Cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404795276468632488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-87934948002636984292015-08-26T11:11:45.317-10:002015-08-26T11:11:45.317-10:0011:16 said :"you have no imagination, not a c...11:16 said :"you have no imagination, not a creative bone in your head". 11:16, you need to consult a craniologist. They'd love to find a specimen like you with a skull full of bone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-76164710136517762572015-08-26T09:45:00.971-10:002015-08-26T09:45:00.971-10:00Dear 11:16
"Critical Thinking". You keep...Dear 11:16<br />"Critical Thinking". You keep using those words. I don't think they mean what you think they mean...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-17796939771500620402015-08-26T08:39:55.160-10:002015-08-26T08:39:55.160-10:00@ 11:16pm - is that you Klayton Kubo? nah, no can...@ 11:16pm - is that you Klayton Kubo? nah, no can be....he writes in pidgin and in all CAPS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-12140503289036645792015-08-26T07:35:19.728-10:002015-08-26T07:35:19.728-10:00I laugh at how people like Katie Horgan are so afr...I laugh at how people like Katie Horgan are so afraid of the seed fields but she works at PMRF. hello!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-83299912740854063102015-08-26T06:49:00.023-10:002015-08-26T06:49:00.023-10:00Weapons testing on Kauai? I am shocked. Oh wait. I...Weapons testing on Kauai? I am shocked. Oh wait. I'm not. Because a lot of Kauai people work out there. Smart kids from all the high schools and colleges. And they are very proud of their work. Oh. And there is a open air display at PMRF of the weapons they help develop. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-79025408625938448242015-08-26T06:42:33.374-10:002015-08-26T06:42:33.374-10:00On that list of tips for scientific misreporting o...On that list of tips for scientific misreporting or fraud, number 10 is no peer reviewed. There is a new and ongoing scandal with regards to this. Starting with Chinese biochemical research, a small sampling showed that the peer review process was fudged. More extensive research is showing not just fudging, but cabals of reviewers exchanging positive reviews. While still concentrated in esoteric research unlikely to be duplicated such as biochemistry of little practical application, prognosticatory pieces in climate and geochemical journals are also being examined at this time. The peer review process is no insurance that the science is sound. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-55373372949244650172015-08-26T05:55:23.598-10:002015-08-26T05:55:23.598-10:00Dearest Joan, Your writing is fabulous, btw fu to ...Dearest Joan, Your writing is fabulous, btw fu to 11:16. Let's see, the military presence is well known/shucks i bet even Joan knows that, testing, well known, the guy with the tractor/ a rancher/ using not diverting water, wtf, water is for using and there ain't no shortage on Kauai.It is the omg, planes are flying, omg 11:16, you my dear lack critical thinking skills. Write on Joan, we love you/ truth to idiots/well omgwtf/ if you are not repeating the approved facts, you must need reprogramming. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-66536890274651325212015-08-26T05:46:06.112-10:002015-08-26T05:46:06.112-10:00Lilley is a huckster who sells crisis. Complete f...Lilley is a huckster who sells crisis. Complete fraud, with no real credentials. Easy enough on this island to convince people of anything though since so many have little to no quality (thanks DOE!) education or critical thinking skills - all by design, makes it much easier to rule over the plebes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-89938821015466360452015-08-25T23:16:05.072-10:002015-08-25T23:16:05.072-10:00BTW you idiots since you do not live on Kauai you ...BTW you idiots since you do not live on Kauai you didn't see the plane flying overhead cuz you do not live here. Obviously. The odd plane was seen by a lot of people. So, lets go over things shall we? So far? Pic and video of pump diverting water? Check. Eyewitness accounts of bulldozers and machinery atop the fall area? check. Microwave towers and weapons testing on Kauai? Check. Planes flying over head military surveillance? Check. so, Joan what exactly are people saying that is not true? You really have no idea do you? Because you can't speculate, because you have no imagination, not a creative bone in your head do you? Because you cannot think out of the box. you believe what the establishment, a company, or a person of authority tell you.If they said the sky was green you would believe it. because you lack critical thinking skills. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-69230522632167130882015-08-25T19:44:53.259-10:002015-08-25T19:44:53.259-10:00So this brief discussion about an airplane once ag...So this brief discussion about an airplane once again takes us to this unsatisfying place where all of the current debates about GMOs, etc. take us. On the one hand, we have commenters (engineer, Navy person) who appear to know what they're talking about offering a logical and specific explanation for the plane and da kine sticking out of the tail. On the other, there are people who are convinced based on rumor, urban lore, paranoia, KKCR blather and apparent predisposition to distrust government that this plane is really :dropping stuff on us. I'd say one is a fact and one is an opinion. Among sane,sober people, "Chemtrails" on this island is code for, "nuts." Unfortunately, if enough people pushed it, we'd have the county council holding a hearing, maybe even passing a resolution. Stand by for barrage of dopey letters to TGI and more simpleton reporting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-27624227210078115572015-08-25T15:17:20.361-10:002015-08-25T15:17:20.361-10:00In case anyone is wondering. The reason they put t...In case anyone is wondering. The reason they put the MAD in the tail is to prevent the metal structure of the aircraft from influencing it's very sensitive readings. It detects changes in the magnetic field caused by large metallic objects whose own magnetic field interferes with the natural field of the Earth. It has no feature to which it would be releasing any sort of chemicals or radio emissions. It's purpose is to simply 'feel' the magnetic field of the earth and computers inside will determine if there's something amiss<br />-I'm an Electrical Engineer with focus on Electric and Magnetic FieldsTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-21558969222343568652015-08-25T15:10:03.432-10:002015-08-25T15:10:03.432-10:00Joan can you post links to the articles that Jan T...Joan can you post links to the articles that Jan T and Allan P submitted regarding the accuracy of the Guardian post? Thanks for helping to maintain a little integrity in the business of journalism. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-13905419990904053022015-08-25T12:59:09.957-10:002015-08-25T12:59:09.957-10:00But sometimes good journalists do make typos. E ka...But sometimes good journalists do make typos. E kala mai. That link is fixed, so go check it out.Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-44467141279522314792015-08-25T12:38:31.477-10:002015-08-25T12:38:31.477-10:00And good journalists don't post web sites as p...And good journalists don't post web sites as places of verification which say "We're really sorry, but the page you requested cannot be found." Your data site reference doesn't exist and that was yesterday you posted it as a source so it isn't like it had a lot of time to be moved. Uhh...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-90756072118190349492015-08-25T12:14:40.448-10:002015-08-25T12:14:40.448-10:00Mahalo Andrew. It is wonderful to read facts befor...Mahalo Andrew. It is wonderful to read facts before making assumptions. Now if anyone knows more about the actual planes and what they were doing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-19892496241717035872015-08-25T11:54:47.030-10:002015-08-25T11:54:47.030-10:00You're all being fooled sheeple. That plane wa...You're all being fooled sheeple. That plane was clearly part of the attack on 9-11. You can tell from the profile. The "Chem Trail" conspiracy is really a false flag, meant to distract us from what REALLY happened.<br /><br />^Sarcasm^Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-78382564234641937212015-08-25T11:13:20.288-10:002015-08-25T11:13:20.288-10:00Thank you, Patrick. I really appreciate that! Gre...Thank you, Patrick. I really appreciate that! Great quote, too. <br /><br />And thanks, Brad and Andrew, for your information on the plane and its exhaust. Though I doubt it will allay Terry's fears, it gives the rest of us a better understanding. Joan Conrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-13757766576467212302015-08-25T11:01:11.064-10:002015-08-25T11:01:11.064-10:00The brown material left behind the aircraft is wat...The brown material left behind the aircraft is water, carbon dioxide and various partially combusted hydrocarbons giving the color... AKA engine exhaust. No expertise on my part, just a tour in the military working on Air Force flightlines. Looks the same as it always has behind the aircraft.<br /><br />Always liked the P-3's, they have been flying for decades, workhorse long range surveillance and patrol aircraft. A lot of people owe their lives to the efforts of the P-3 crews when working search and rescue operations. They also do illegal fishing patrols and other beneficial operations.Andrew Cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404795276468632488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-57114535044125692712015-08-25T10:59:26.753-10:002015-08-25T10:59:26.753-10:00I unsecond 9:57 amʻs postI unsecond 9:57 amʻs postAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38794509039397711752015-08-25T10:57:04.623-10:002015-08-25T10:57:04.623-10:00Brad, Mahalo for the info. Helps us all get closer...Brad, Mahalo for the info. Helps us all get closer to the truth of the matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-73785328576875869002015-08-25T10:56:16.992-10:002015-08-25T10:56:16.992-10:00A plane is not an organic organism that flaps its ...A plane is not an organic organism that flaps its wings to fly. It is a mechanical piece of equipment, run by fuel with a pressurized cabin, and all sorts of other non-organic, mechanical thingamabobs that allow it fly high in the air without killing everyone on board. Sorry, not an aircraft engineer so I don't really know all of its components, but common sense tells me that this machine must emit/release some kind of chemicals or exhaust. Like a car, or a boat, or an air-conditioning unit. Do these chemtrail fanatics not travel by plane EVER? If they do, they needs to stop blathering on about it, OR they need to create a magical flying machine that runs on unicorn farts and pixie dust and leaves behind trails of rainbows and glitter.<br />Sorry to sound so negative, but if you complain about chemtrails, you should feel horrible for ever getting in a plane. If you complain about large, multi-billion dollar corporations, stop posting about it on Facebook/Instagram with your Apple smartphone that's serviced by AT&T or Verizon. If you have an issue with not knowing where your food is coming from, grow/raise your own. Nobody is forcing you to do any of these things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30333541229704413382015-08-25T10:44:38.591-10:002015-08-25T10:44:38.591-10:00It seems like you struck a nerve with Christopher,...It seems like you struck a nerve with Christopher, Joan, looking at how strongly he reacted. Apparently he really doesn't like being fact checked. I applaud your bravery to have a strong voice amidst misinformation regarding GMOs and other hot button topics on this island where the majority seems to fervently accept without skepticism. As well as Jan and Allan. Being the voice of reason is no small task when unreasonable is the status quo. <br /><br />"Follow the path of the unsafe, independent thinker. Expose your ideas to the danger of controversy. Speak your mind and fear less the label of "crackpot" than the stigma of conformity." -Thomas J. WatsonPatrick Kelley Photographyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202696463364209424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-12295600808190020302015-08-25T10:10:37.198-10:002015-08-25T10:10:37.198-10:00I second 9:57 am's postI second 9:57 am's postAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com