tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post8545616776219389392..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Losing Lifelong HomesJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88513775157169127642012-01-13T11:54:13.922-10:002012-01-13T11:54:13.922-10:00http://collectionsfrommyheart.blogspot.com/2012/01...http://collectionsfrommyheart.blogspot.com/2012/01/eviction-notice.htmlRhiannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01760401832844916748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-1916995547933277932011-12-15T17:16:54.242-10:002011-12-15T17:16:54.242-10:00"if the goal is to supply housing"
The ..."if the goal is to supply housing"<br /><br />The GOAL is NOT to supply affordable housing. The Goal is to make a profit on the 70% full priced housing. <br /><br />The law requires them to provide 30% 'affordable'. <br /><br /><br />...read the Housing Strategic Plan on kauai.govAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-29889671454972189722011-12-15T15:19:31.148-10:002011-12-15T15:19:31.148-10:00auwe, and who would want a toxic prefabricated cra...auwe, and who would want a toxic prefabricated crappy house for an over inflated 270,000 - 475,000. if the goal is to supply housing, they have achieved that better by leaving the houses and families as they are.Oh yeah, those families can go into huge debt to live in a junk version of their house. As an island, it's pretty heartless for one of the largest landowners to evict long term residents to put up cheap unaffordable "affordable housing." <br />It's not like they don't have ample land to develop anywhere so i'll assume it's the same as has happened on the North Shore... get rid of as many local people as possible. And they apparantly don't care if it's bad PR. Bad mistake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-35268621119777297322011-12-15T08:43:34.960-10:002011-12-15T08:43:34.960-10:00Read Tresslers take in todays tgi. He says evictio...Read Tresslers take in todays tgi. He says evictions are between landlord and tenant, a private matter yet according to tenants GF isn't talking to them. Looks like he's playing hardball now that tenants have taken the issue public. What has happened to the Koloa/Poipu area over the last 10 years is a disgrace and I don't blame life-long residents whose families have been living there for generations for resisting yet another attack on local lifestyle. <br /><br />Plantations raped the land which they acquired through questionable means, making their wealth off the backs of laborers. Now they are "discarding" these former workers as obstacles to their land development mission. If GF had their way the entire Poipu coastline from Mahaulepu to Kukuiula would be resort development. Plantation camps no longer fit their image. Show some compassion and respect for the retired workers w/ limited income who made you wealthy in the first place. Let them live out thir lives in the only home they've ever known with their vegetable gardens and chickens. When their gone, build your so called green buildings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-68110820060037414572011-12-14T19:46:44.704-10:002011-12-14T19:46:44.704-10:00Really! Who's running Grove Farm? Ebenezer Scr...Really! Who's running Grove Farm? Ebenezer Scrooge?<br /><br />December 14, 2011 7:37 PM<br /><br />Mike Tressler?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-75381639108515770002011-12-14T19:37:54.245-10:002011-12-14T19:37:54.245-10:00Really! Who's running Grove Farm? Ebenezer Scr...Really! Who's running Grove Farm? Ebenezer Scrooge?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-47940896329910203552011-12-14T18:23:50.487-10:002011-12-14T18:23:50.487-10:00Itʻs possible that Grove Farmʻs ʻleaseʻ has expire...Itʻs possible that Grove Farmʻs ʻleaseʻ has expired.<br />We know they never owned the land but the bogus lease they acquired after the illegal overthrow expired a long long time ago.<br />Yet they just continue on and donʻt think anyone will dare contradict their squatting.<br /><br />Grove Farm Corporation is squatting. On National Lands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-10495141758327538672011-12-14T15:51:31.616-10:002011-12-14T15:51:31.616-10:00I think this needs mainland TV media exposure.......I think this needs mainland TV media exposure.....<br />during the Holiday Season this should stir things up a bunch...<br /><br />"Large corporation (the 1 percent)demonstrating what they really care about....cash"<br /><br />This move by Grove Fraud makes them the Christmas Grinch of the year!<br /><br />Example of "trickle down economics?"<br /><br />Dr ShibaiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-30519831037935898802011-12-14T10:49:40.791-10:002011-12-14T10:49:40.791-10:00This is a legitimate use of the land, the problem ...This is a legitimate use of the land, the problem here is you cannot regulate the CPRs and subdivision public hearings might as well be private developer affairs. I notice they are not webcast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-48846610194800047962011-12-14T10:46:59.219-10:002011-12-14T10:46:59.219-10:00HRS 343
No, no triggers.
http://luc.state.hi.us...HRS 343 <br /><br />No, no triggers.<br /><br />http://luc.state.hi.us/docs/hrs_343.pdf<br /><br />So, not state, federal or county land, not shoreline, not conservation district, not designated as historic - maybe 343 (5)-9 depending on the number of SFR so, GF knowing the law, it would be for less than fifty.<br /><br />Has the CPR already been approved by the county, that detail was not in your reporting?<br />Besides, if there were - what do you think would happen?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-83624970522517528732011-12-14T10:30:29.659-10:002011-12-14T10:30:29.659-10:00Aren't there federal endangered species regula...Aren't there federal endangered species regulations that would come into play if they develope Koloa duck habitat? Wouldn't that trigger an EA or EIS?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-90033746522972131882011-12-14T10:25:25.805-10:002011-12-14T10:25:25.805-10:00Thanks once again for reporting news absent from o...Thanks once again for reporting news absent from our bogus daily paper. TGI has no meat or substance to their content and rarely if ever reports anything that goes against business interests. Needless to say, surprised to see the article about the lawsuit filed against Pioneer today in tgi...kinda hard to ignore that one even if they wanted to.<br /><br />Mahalo for the heads up on the meeting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-26357679145438090612011-12-14T10:04:19.835-10:002011-12-14T10:04:19.835-10:00Changing the zoning is an option,
Just fill in t...Changing the zoning is an option, <br /><br />Just fill in the wetland area - its not protected right.<br /><br />check out the flood area.<br /><br />http://www.kauai.gov/default.aspx?tabid=433Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-75713159230420849372011-12-14T10:01:26.109-10:002011-12-14T10:01:26.109-10:00The land is zoned both Open and R-6 (higher densit...The land is zoned both Open and R-6 (higher density per acre). The Open land is zoned open due to the FLOOD ZONE.<br /><br />What is interesting here is, what would be the trigger for the EA or EIS does not apply because they are not subdividing the lot. They are Condominium Property Regime - CPRing it - which does not require infrastructure improvements to surrounding areas. Higher density, more traffic, larger sewers - which will be at the cost of the COUNTY instead of the developer based on this land use system of CPR. It could also be called Unregulated Growth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-1365293747634588412011-12-14T08:36:43.697-10:002011-12-14T08:36:43.697-10:00"who owns the land"?
Grove Farm"who owns the land"?<br />Grove FarmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-39084957767385001552011-12-14T08:27:03.227-10:002011-12-14T08:27:03.227-10:00who owns the land? Is this part of eminent domain?...who owns the land? Is this part of eminent domain? Is this leasehold land?<br />I think a key piece of this story is glaringly absent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-12426057885137538002011-12-14T07:34:59.976-10:002011-12-14T07:34:59.976-10:00Grove Farm trying to pretty up Koloa town for tour...Grove Farm trying to pretty up Koloa town for tourists at expense of local families.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-50932571610759144022011-12-14T02:17:09.505-10:002011-12-14T02:17:09.505-10:00Evil, evil, evil. Grove Farm is greedy. They rea...Evil, evil, evil. Grove Farm is greedy. They really don't care about people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com