tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post8832841549154921263..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Little and LateJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-68164703769264183832013-11-15T16:09:13.184-10:002013-11-15T16:09:13.184-10:00I hope he runs. We need new blood.I hope he runs. We need new blood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-2760945172707205672013-11-15T15:21:01.834-10:002013-11-15T15:21:01.834-10:00Er no, Mason will run for council and win. No ones...Er no, Mason will run for council and win. No ones seats are safe. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-68977572828395045982013-11-15T12:56:29.620-10:002013-11-15T12:56:29.620-10:00I wonder if the new appointee has to promise not t...I wonder if the new appointee has to promise not to run against the existing members in the next election. I would guess a "yes" vote but not strong competition in an election.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-41695186071231271902013-11-14T18:52:12.870-10:002013-11-14T18:52:12.870-10:00such is part of the kabuki theater!such is part of the kabuki theater!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-24021510088529728672013-11-14T18:49:54.984-10:002013-11-14T18:49:54.984-10:00how can a new appointed council member with any ki...how can a new appointed council member with any kind of ethical or moral values vote on this bill?<br /><br />they must abstain on the vote or they will never have any creditability. <br /><br />This person has not sat in any executive sessions or been a part of this process.<br /><br />I smell quid pro quo here, they will go into executive session talk about it, ask the person how they will vote, if they hear the yes word "poof" you are then new council member.<br /><br />If Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-60475433730320846652013-11-14T18:08:36.512-10:002013-11-14T18:08:36.512-10:00if the new councilperson voted to override, vote o...if the new councilperson voted to override, vote of 5-2 would be super majority needed to override the mayor's veto. then, the bill would pass, then the county would be the new pesticide czar. good luck! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88132992850317723642013-11-14T18:04:11.912-10:002013-11-14T18:04:11.912-10:00I don't understand.....if it was going to die ...I don't understand.....if it was going to die at 4-2....how would 1 new councilmember change it? 4-3?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-69957242249085084092013-11-14T17:45:55.899-10:002013-11-14T17:45:55.899-10:00Hot off the press: the vote to override was going...Hot off the press: the vote to override was going to die at 4-2, but a recess was called till Sat (11/16). So now, the replacement councilperson will be the deciding vote. <br />The Kabuki continues . . .<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-31393172345205376732013-11-14T16:41:39.071-10:002013-11-14T16:41:39.071-10:00Joan,
i thought the county is not allowed to acce...Joan,<br /><br />i thought the county is not allowed to accept "gifts"? wouldn't letting attorneys represent the county pro bono be in violation of that? come on nowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38967220072803662922013-11-14T16:33:02.443-10:002013-11-14T16:33:02.443-10:00How can the pro bono attorneys will "represen...How can the pro bono attorneys will "represent" the county. Are they representing the council or the mayor? The pro bono attorneys should be suing the state to enforce and strengthen the pesticide laws. <br /><br />And zealotry in trying to tie GMOs with pesticides is non-productive, and unwittingly, a poison pill. Give it up. This is a pesticide issue, so let's move on. I'm quite sure even the pro bono attorneys would agree with that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-2925453966324358602013-11-14T16:20:58.842-10:002013-11-14T16:20:58.842-10:00Maybe a "Little and Late" should have be...Maybe a "Little and Late" should have been more like: "Don't Cha Get It?" The Department of Agriculture's "little and late" statement on voluntary compliance is tacit admission that this is a state jurisdiction/responsibility.<br /><br />If the veto is overridden, then the bill, in its amended form will become law. What then? The County Office of Economic Development will be the new pesticide czar/agency overlooking pesticide monitoring on Kauai. <br /><br />If the veto is not overridden, the bill dies, then the pro bono attorneys can go ahead and sue the State of Hawaii, regarding pesticide regulations. Then, and only then will the State Attorney General render an opinion whether pesticide jurisdiction is with the state or with the counties/municipalities. <br /><br />Whether you believe Mayor Carvalho did the right thing or not with the veto, he did the smart thing to place the issue where it belongs--with the state.<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-85937022958159019492013-11-14T15:43:15.737-10:002013-11-14T15:43:15.737-10:00Well, if this isn't perfect timing! I bet the ...Well, if this isn't perfect timing! I bet the state announced it because they know the outcome of the council vote already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-28102066418407828132013-11-14T12:44:32.800-10:002013-11-14T12:44:32.800-10:00Don't believe the state of Hi. for one second,...Don't believe the state of Hi. for one second, in these "voluntary disclosure" concepts. nor do i have any trust in there stall tactics, or pure trickery here. this is a LIFE AND DEATH, issue, it is a eugenics operation, above and beyond a mere pesticide and or gmo slaughter. it is flat out murder, "Anthropogenic Ecocide, and Genocide", against the people, marine life, and the aina'. this includes, all residents, of every color, race. it is criminal trespassing, while engaged in international crimes, against the earth, and it's natural owners. period. further more over, i am not afraid, to state my name! WVL mahaloAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-69924971312284886092013-11-14T10:11:58.700-10:002013-11-14T10:11:58.700-10:00Little and Late? It could be "Little and jus...Little and Late? It could be "Little and just enough time to turn one vote."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-13273616666824286152013-11-14T10:06:57.921-10:002013-11-14T10:06:57.921-10:00Did I read that right? A 100 foot buffer zone? WT...Did I read that right? A 100 foot buffer zone? WTF<br />It should be no less than a 1/4 mile, there is more than enough ag land on this island to accommodate a safe poison free zone between schools, homes, hospitals and anywhere else the general population congregates!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-34660179044477018282013-11-14T08:59:14.718-10:002013-11-14T08:59:14.718-10:00May be Little and Late, but at this point it is mo...May be Little and Late, but at this point it is more realistic than #2491, if passed.<br />The comment of 11/13, 11:27pm to the 11/13/13 blog is spot on. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com