tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post9061495337304720059..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Damage DoneJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-64364553354046478182015-05-22T23:52:06.851-10:002015-05-22T23:52:06.851-10:00It was Dan Basta from NOAA It was Dan Basta from NOAA Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-35981106740248128872015-05-22T15:50:47.007-10:002015-05-22T15:50:47.007-10:006:47
read in todays letters to the GI that the sa...6:47<br /><br />read in todays letters to the GI that the sanctuary manager has been put on leave (malia chow ?) Is this true?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-58620331857190306582015-05-12T12:13:07.243-10:002015-05-12T12:13:07.243-10:00Yesterday you said 70% of island has high school e...Yesterday you said 70% of island has high school education or less. Today its north shore has a 70% drop rate. What is it exactly? A college education doesn't determine intelligence. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-46499198532382750092015-05-12T09:17:12.043-10:002015-05-12T09:17:12.043-10:005:47 educated people are not above being fooled by...5:47 educated people are not above being fooled by bullshit. Look at all the college graduates who voted for Reagan and Bush.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-33385761251989215622015-05-12T05:47:00.768-10:002015-05-12T05:47:00.768-10:002:11, you ar very wrong. being undereducated is a ...2:11, you ar very wrong. being undereducated is a huge liability and makes it far easier to believe bullshit. That is not to say, some people have lots of smarts with or without an education. But when you look at the 70% dropout rate for the northshore, we have a problem with education and undereducated people. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-66258396452822818062015-05-11T14:11:33.276-10:002015-05-11T14:11:33.276-10:00What the fuck does that have do with it other than...What the fuck does that have do with it other than feed into some peoples superiority complex? The palapapala education is not the only form of education that matters in life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-7266798740561804792015-05-11T11:30:54.674-10:002015-05-11T11:30:54.674-10:0070% of this island has a high school education or ...70% of this island has a high school education or LESS. US Census 2010Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-54313631662689626222015-05-10T18:47:44.352-10:002015-05-10T18:47:44.352-10:00Malia chow should be replaced. A person at her le...Malia chow should be replaced. A person at her level should never ever allow herself to be involved in a personal confrontation with a citizen. There is no excuse for this behavior. NOAA knew the history of Kauai's long opposition to expansion of the sanctuary. When they added the 3 mile circle around Niihau, which was nothing but a poorly disguised attempt to give the robinsons what they've tried many times to unsuccessfully accomplish, what did they expect the public reaction was going to be? <br /><br />Lets face it. Malia Chow and her crew were not only poorly prepared, but were ill suited to handle this delicate subject. Shame on her. Shame on NOAA.. They blew it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-29996258240421429732015-05-10T08:24:11.768-10:002015-05-10T08:24:11.768-10:00The last two posts tie into the BnB/TVR thing. If...The last two posts tie into the BnB/TVR thing. If you live around either, besides not knowing who your absentee neighbors (TVRs) are, the loss of personal contact with real neighbors, you have the issue of haole style mentality anonymous is talking about. Some owners you never even see or know the names of, other than some LLC. Then its the quaint Hale this and the Hale that. People (guests) walking through the neighborhood very rarely respond to a hello or even deign to make eye contact. One of the selling points for allowing TVAs in neighborhoods is that the tourists enjoy the cultural exchange. From what we can see, thats pretty much Bull Shit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-14936437370834625662015-05-09T17:53:15.161-10:002015-05-09T17:53:15.161-10:00@3:05 pm
You need to remain Cool in battle. If yo...@3:05 pm<br /><br />You need to remain Cool in battle. If you lose your cool and charge into enemy fire you may never eat another banana.<br />And if your neighbor doesn't talk to you, then don't give them bananas. Maybe they are just recluse and want to be left alone. Some people are like that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-45520225164280648512015-05-09T15:05:57.292-10:002015-05-09T15:05:57.292-10:00"When you lose your cool you lose the battle&..."When you lose your cool you lose the battle". You must be not familiar with war. I been to war and I tell you you have no idea. I come back to Kauai and get plenty haole kine people not white, I talking haole style of mentality. Needs to stop! My own neighbor no talk to me I say hi. No aloha. I guess I not going share my bananas with that guy! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-18660197409852455672015-05-09T14:19:42.375-10:002015-05-09T14:19:42.375-10:00What's wrong with standing up for one's ri...What's wrong with standing up for one's rights! People here have been trampled on by government, the rich, egoist, the greedy, the media! Sometimes people get tired and want to be heard---so they shout and bang their fists---some even drink alcohol beverages to give them courage to speak (not good, but sometimes it happens). People seem to be stuck on saying that when we speak or want to be heard, we tend to create division here on Kauai. Yes, we have different views and if that causes division, so be it! We all should be free to speak our truth. I read a lot of people's opinions on this blog, i don't agree with some, but it could be causing bad vibes for many--and then DIVISION! Alapa must have had it! Glad that he spoke his truth!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-4128981683010508182015-05-09T13:10:59.928-10:002015-05-09T13:10:59.928-10:009:58 you're right. the condos were completed. ...9:58 you're right. the condos were completed. And there was a $40,000 loan that wasn't disclosed until the Garden Island reported it. From the NY Times:<br />DEVELOPER PAYS EXPENSES FOR VOTING ON ZONING ON LITTLE HAWAIIAN ISLAND<br />By WALLACE TURNER<br />Published: January 12, 1984 <br /><br /> After an inconclusive search for a settlement, the developers last summer put their efforts into support of Kauaians for Nukolii, which was formed June 15. In August the group gave the county a $50,000 check to finance the primary election.<br /><br />Subsequently it was uncovered that $40,000 of this came from the developers. This was discovered when a reporter for The Garden Island, a daily newspaper here, obtained confidential memorandums showing that Hasegawa Komuten (USA) gave the prodevelopment forces an interest-free loan to finance the special election.<br /><br />Other outright gifts and loans by Hasegawa Komuten have since been disclosed. They total $171,000.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-2777233356284807032015-05-09T13:06:15.637-10:002015-05-09T13:06:15.637-10:00POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, May 09, 2015
A federal co...POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, May 09, 2015<br /><br />A federal court jury awarded a total of $507,090 in damages to 15 Waimea residents who say they can't enjoy their homes because of red dust from test fields operated by DuPont Pioneer on Kauai.<br /><br />After a four-week trial, the seven-member jury reached its verdict Friday: $191,315 for property damage and $315,775 for loss of use and enjoyment of property.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-27094134487895263912015-05-09T09:58:20.742-10:002015-05-09T09:58:20.742-10:00@7:07 PM
A 150 condo's were completed.
Afte...@7:07 PM <br />A 150 condo's were completed. <br /><br />After the Supreme Court ruling the project was still sent back to Kauai's Circuit Court for clean up.<br /><br />As for the election, the developer gave the pro-development group an interest free loan of $40k. <br /><br />As for Alapa's history, that does no disqualify him from being a human being with emotion. Go figure.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-12542989703575496692015-05-09T02:47:00.916-10:002015-05-09T02:47:00.916-10:00Fishermen, thanks for fish but if you want to supp...Fishermen, thanks for fish but if you want to support the fisheries and the "culture" how about using the ancient ways! Organic line that biodegrades, sails and paddles instead of disel and gas, restoring the fish ponds as a supplement to the ocean To "feed" the ohana. <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-21729651107578377182015-05-08T20:45:26.218-10:002015-05-08T20:45:26.218-10:00The entire marine ecosystem surrounding Kaua'i...The entire marine ecosystem surrounding Kaua'i is at a tipping point. Today, the odds are maybe 50/50 that it will recover. This has happened enough places around the world that the pattern is clear and well documented. This is the reality. That is the issue. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88529318747641577802015-05-08T19:07:11.057-10:002015-05-08T19:07:11.057-10:005:28 what revisionist history! The condos weren...5:28 what revisionist history! The condos weren't completed and the Supreme Court reversed the Kauai judge. And I notice that you have no problem with a foreign corporation financing an election in America or with Mitchell Alapa's record. Figures.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-22431686639112628142015-05-08T17:34:41.535-10:002015-05-08T17:34:41.535-10:00@8:41am
I had a chuckle when I read your post. Yo...@8:41am<br /><br />I had a chuckle when I read your post. You must have been there because everything you say is very close to reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-2630606619466448882015-05-08T17:28:09.482-10:002015-05-08T17:28:09.482-10:00@1:10 pm
What you fail to post is that the develo...@1:10 pm<br /><br />What you fail to post is that the developer had completed the 185 Condo's and the construction of the hotel was under way when the Supreme Court ruled that the permits were invalid. After such they sent the project to the Kauai Courts to clean up. Thus the special election.<br /><br />Oh and the monk seal and whale environmentalist can have their emotional fixes and so should Mitchel Alapa. Mitchell Alapa is just an emotional surfer who is connected to the ocean. I see no problem with that without the profanities that is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-18595384704089121992015-05-08T13:51:32.382-10:002015-05-08T13:51:32.382-10:00When you lose your Cool you have lost the battle. ...When you lose your Cool you have lost the battle. Simple as that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-24693532481659656732015-05-08T13:10:35.251-10:002015-05-08T13:10:35.251-10:008:40 Nukolii was about a hui of power brokers from...8:40 Nukolii was about a hui of power brokers from around the state finagling the rezoning of land that they bought and sold to developers. The debacle occurred when a foreign corporation was allowed to finance an election after the people voted to undo the rezoning. As for Mitchell Alapa, check out his criminal record. But hey, nothing wrong with taking your lead from foreign corporations or the likes of Mitchell Alapa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-88540719163086680212015-05-08T11:14:13.819-10:002015-05-08T11:14:13.819-10:00Anger.
Destroys families.
Abusive way to control....Anger. <br />Destroys families.<br />Abusive way to control.<br />The innocent pay...<br /><br />The cycle continues. <br />We need an intervention. We as a community need to heal and learn positive coping skills. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-26751088860147526082015-05-08T09:38:53.969-10:002015-05-08T09:38:53.969-10:00What the Garden Island Newspaper FAILED to write a...What the Garden Island Newspaper FAILED to write about was this: 1) this management plan failed to reach out to the community throughout its 5 year process. NOAA claims the management plan was made to reflect what the communities wanted in the State of Hawaii. This is untrue. At the 3 hearings on Kauai there were many communities that were left out of the loop! These residents - these community leaders - testified and stated that they were never asked or approached and some DIDN'T KNOW about the hearings at all. NOAA dropped the ball big time within the community. Proper community-based outreach was never done. 2) These hearings were NOT violent as the Garden Island Newspaper states. That was just a segment of what happened at one of the hearings. At the Waimea hearing the atmosphere was normal, residents attended with their young children. No one was aggressive. Everyone was just listening to the testimonies. The only time someone raised their voice was because their 3 minutes were up, and Malia Chow ordered her staff to UNPLUG the testifier's microphone. The Hanamaulu hearing was also laid back. 3) NOAA claims that fisheries will not be stopped by them, yet when asked if they could promise this they couldn't promise it. It was in the hands of the National Marine Fisheries Service not Malia Chow's department. Yet isn't both agencies working under the federal government? 4) This question was asked: how does the sanctuary expansion benefit sovereignty and Hawaiians? It won't! Federal management of our waters will not benefit the kingdom. We are not to be "reserved" and put into the same class as the Native Americans. The people answered that years ago so what makes the Feds think they can use a culture based method of taking over our lands and oceans? NOAA needs to QUIT HIDING BEHIND A CULTURE THAT DOESNT SUPPORT A FEDERAL ESTABLISHMENT. 5) With the history of Robinsons attempting to shut down fishing around his island, or trying to create his own county - why would we trust Robinsons now under the whale sanctuary to not do the same thing? This is why Kauai's westside hearing had such a huge attendance (300+), because we experienced what the Robinsons are capable of and we don't trust them to make honest decisions regarding that ecosystem. Niihau is part of our resources and it is part of our County. It is unjust to think it is separate when the residents of Niihau live on Kauai, attend our schools, use our emergency facilities, and grow up within our community. 6) Kauai had the largest turn out of attendees compared to outer islands which yesterday in Hilo there were only 4 fishermen at their last hearing. Does that sounds like established community-based outreach to you? 7) Look at the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands- until last year, was the LARGEST MARINE SANCTUARY in the world. It was also our icebox! A solemn 15 fishing boats had permits to fish there in the end and NOAA claimed they were starving the monk seals there so they completely shut it down. No access! We don't know of one person who has gotten a sustainability permit to fish there. The Northwestern Hawaiian Islands contributed more than 50% of our main Hawaiian Islands food supply. Yet NOAA took that away from us, from the hard working fishermen. <br />In closing, do not let these issues divide us as a community but let it make us stronger and more confident to stand up for our rights! <br />Aloha<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-24586077678190553572015-05-08T09:29:14.726-10:002015-05-08T09:29:14.726-10:007:48 A conservative complaining about a lack of di...7:48 A conservative complaining about a lack of diversity? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com