tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post960095977479633994..comments2023-10-17T04:51:08.765-10:00Comments on KauaiEclectic: Musings: Speaking UpJoan Conrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00172330100788007499noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-2810066094362763142011-10-23T00:15:28.653-10:002011-10-23T00:15:28.653-10:00No educational system can weed out dishonest peopl...No educational system can weed out dishonest people or make people inherently "better".<br /><br />All they do is educate (knowledge...the "what") and train (skills...the "how").<br /><br />The core values of the people going through the system are not subject to this process.<br /><br />Ask any lawyer.<br /><br />:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-55585922289661475122011-10-22T23:17:30.471-10:002011-10-22T23:17:30.471-10:00Why can't we criticize the way lawyers are edu...Why can't we criticize the way lawyers are educated?<br /><br />It may be long and grueling, but does it weed out dishonest people, does it teach them how to be better people, does it provide a benefit to society? This may be too much to ask of an educational system (just look at med school, or engineering colleges), but we ARE allowed to question the system.watchdognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-8073948208336395202011-10-22T12:46:52.442-10:002011-10-22T12:46:52.442-10:00I said what I came to say. Dis the person if you ...I said what I came to say. Dis the person if you must but not the profession or what it takes to go through the program regardless of what accredited school you're talking about.<br /><br />Maybe some just do "minimum standards" while others go beyond, but even the "minimum standards" are nothing to scoff.<br /><br />The vast majority of our Congressmen and women are lawyers, a significant number from Ivy League schools.<br /><br />Like most of them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-31967447780849669822011-10-22T08:54:41.671-10:002011-10-22T08:54:41.671-10:00You really didnʻt say a whole lot.
so why donʻt yo...You really didnʻt say a whole lot.<br />so why donʻt you just not say anything?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-5160647485128003142011-10-20T17:51:27.162-10:002011-10-20T17:51:27.162-10:00The lawyers I deal with were educated in Ivy Leagu...The lawyers I deal with were educated in Ivy League schools and do practice here. They have no problem since Hawaii, regardless of your head-in-ass opinion, is governed by US federal laws on top of our state laws.<br /><br />I don't know about Richardson, but Wiki says:<br /><br />Rankings<br /><br /> The Law School scored high in two recent law school rankings -- 16th for Top Law School Clinical Opportunities on the 2011 National Jurist list [5] and one of the top 60 Best Value Law Schools in preLaw Magazine.[6]<br /> The Princeton Review ranked the Law School as number one in the United States for "Best Environment for Minority Students," fifth for "Most Diverse Faculty," and seventh for "Most Welcoming of Older Students" in its 2011 edition of the Best Law Schools.[7]<br /> In 2011, U.S. News & World Report ranked Richardson 95th of 190 Law Schools (the smallest school in the Top 100). [8]<br /><br /><br />Middle-of-the-road law school, but some of the best lawyers came out of middle-of-the-road schools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-13696353043220598112011-10-20T17:41:27.071-10:002011-10-20T17:41:27.071-10:00Well sorry but I will definitely diss the Hawaii l...Well sorry but I will definitely diss the Hawaii law school system and especially the Richardsonʻs School of Law.<br />It is no wonder this place is so confused when the whole law application ʻpracticedʻ and ʻexercisedʻ is the wrong jurisdiction.<br />In other words itʻs a pretend game. Pretend that we can practice U.S. jurisprudence in someone elseʻs country. <br /><br />It is wholly contrived and they even have pitfalls trying to cross over these inconsistencies.<br /><br />And BTW, please donʻt try to sell me a similarity between a law student who studied in Hawaii and one from somewhere else, such as the east coast. Come on....make me laugh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-32327322808055996542011-10-20T08:25:25.574-10:002011-10-20T08:25:25.574-10:00"These guys did their little law degree stint..."These guys did their little law degree stint and actually think that made them into lawyers."<br /><br />Three years of law school on top of 4 years of undergrad. A truly grueling bar exam.<br /><br />You may not like these guys, but don't ever dis the effort and smarts that it took to get into law school and then come out the other end and then pass the bar.<br /><br />Being a fed and state regulated profession, every accredited law school from Harvard to "Podunk U" to a part-time night school law program, must teach the same course topics in the same general credit hours and demand the same proof of knowledge retention via testing.<br /><br />That doesn't mean that all lawyers will prove to be the same in practice...just that they all had to pass through the same general gauntlet to get there.<br /><br />You know what they say, though...what do they call the person graduating last in their med school class? "Doctor".<br /><br />What do they call the person graduating last in their law school class? "Your Honor".<br /><br />You may dis the individual person, but don't dis the educational process.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-6067374972116987732011-10-20T07:06:17.256-10:002011-10-20T07:06:17.256-10:00If you try to google anything related to threats a...If you try to google anything related to threats against Obama or his family almost nothing comes up so here is something from 2009. Some interested tid-bits that shed a little more confirmation on the compromised Obama White House Administration and why, when the President makes a declaration to do something everyone wants, he rescinds it immediately after...every time.<br />HOT: Obama Presidency Threatened by Bush-Clinton Crime Family ... <br /><br />http://www.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel/blog/467715237Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-38344013463003026442011-10-20T06:37:25.617-10:002011-10-20T06:37:25.617-10:00TO: October 17, 2011 9:42 AM
I wish they had a la...TO: October 17, 2011 9:42 AM<br /><br />I wish they had a lawyer stashed in their brain. Even the ʻlawyersʻ they have sitting at the meetings are a joke. These guys did their little law degree stint and actually think that made them into lawyers. If they were theyʻd be in private practice instead of sucking off the county payroll.<br /><br />ʻEthicsʻ Commission? As long as Warren Perry is sitting on that commission it is not an ethics board. I better not say anymore about him but it is documented and it makes my skin crawl.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-19488759198171282412011-10-19T09:52:37.810-10:002011-10-19T09:52:37.810-10:00Some well put together thoughts and looking at the...Some well put together thoughts and looking at the "bigger picture" in all of the demonstrating. I believe we are spoiled as a culture in the USA. We have too much and less people have more than the majority.<br />Everything on TV......the religion of the masses focuses on buying stuff and having money to buy it. <br /><br />Unless one travels to other countries, one does not know how good we have it here in the USA.<br /><br />Although, I do believe that demonstrating and civil disobedience makes people pay attention...and will eventually bring up some of the deeper issues if we continue to dig up the dirt.<br /><br />And speaking of dirt......Mel,<br />could you not get a investigative reported from the Star Advertiser to write an article on what is going on with this issue? I think you need media help to get the dirt out of the closet.<br /><br />Dr ShibaiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-29076759444095021842011-10-19T07:28:43.885-10:002011-10-19T07:28:43.885-10:00http://agency.governmentjobs.com/kauai/default.cfm...http://agency.governmentjobs.com/kauai/default.cfmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-1192097151006997512011-10-18T08:25:16.301-10:002011-10-18T08:25:16.301-10:00I hope Joan will keep us updated with the ethics i...I hope Joan will keep us updated with the ethics issue. Thank you Joan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-21255193769926018422011-10-18T07:27:19.978-10:002011-10-18T07:27:19.978-10:00October 17, 2011 11:37 AM
she's right, you ar...October 17, 2011 11:37 AM<br /><br />she's right, you are wrong, hire an attorney and waste your own money. thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-10753244507349765792011-10-18T05:33:11.403-10:002011-10-18T05:33:11.403-10:00"Tiajuana / hard scrabble" an insult to ..."Tiajuana / hard scrabble" an insult to the term.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-85965019294246760252011-10-17T20:45:27.295-10:002011-10-17T20:45:27.295-10:00so its corruption for the mayor to not want him or...so its corruption for the mayor to not want him or his appointees to take a raise in tough economic times? gotta love that logic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-24066094985934954662011-10-17T11:40:35.197-10:002011-10-17T11:40:35.197-10:00Great Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKrzU...Great Video<br /><br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKrzUMGjFSs&feature=relatedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-63983967962257798342011-10-17T11:37:06.830-10:002011-10-17T11:37:06.830-10:00Just a clarification. My communication to the Boar...Just a clarification. My communication to the Board of Ethics was not a complaint, but a request for an advisory opinion of the process used in the adoption of Resolution 2011-1. It was not a complaint but simply a request for the Board of Ethics to review the process. My communication was properly posted and my testimony should have been allowed. Deputy County Attorney Mona Clark opined that I circumvented the complaint process by requesting an advisory opinion and instructed the Board to not allow me to testify. She advised that I should file a complaint instead, thereby requiring the discussion to occur in executive session. I feel strongly that my request for an advisory opinion was within the parameters of the Charter, and not allowing me to testify at a public meeting on a properly posted agenda item is a flagrant violation of the Hawaii Sunshine Law. I have contacted the Office of Information Practices for a ruling on the actions of the Board of Ethics.Mel Rapozohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151359093353182678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7875069982976812251.post-65045196375860406182011-10-17T09:42:37.011-10:002011-10-17T09:42:37.011-10:00Well done Joan, I like your friends analogy of
the...Well done Joan, I like your friends analogy of<br />the current situation.<br /><br />Back in the old days, we used to make Christmas gifts.<br /><br />Now we go and buy stuff. It doesn't mean near as much.<br /><br />As for the council, when I watch them on cable, every word comes out <br />painfully slow and thought out. It' as if they have a lawyer stashed<br />in their brain that cautions them on every statement and word.<br /><br />Government reminds me of the first Humvee that came off the <br />amphibious landing ship at pmrf and promptly got stuck in the sand.<br /><br />So useless as presently constructed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com