The cultural significance of Wailua and Ha`ena, and the impact of development in those key areas, will be the topic of my next KKCR show, 4 to 6 p.m. Thursday, March 11. My guests will be the remarkable Kehaulani Kekua, kumu hulu of Halau Palaihiwa O Kaipuwai, and `Aikane Alapa`i, the halau's alaka`i.
As Kumu Kehau notes: "It is a result of our practice that we understand how vital these places are to the health and wellbeing of Native Hawaiians and all of Hawai`i Nei."
So please join us for an informative, thoughtful and eye-opening discussion. You can tune in at FM 90.0, 91.9 and 92.7, as well as on line. An audio file of the show will be posted on KKCR's archives and this blog.
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I HAVE GIVEN UP ALL HOPE FOR PRESERVING OUR CULTURE. THE LEADERS OF KAUAI HAVE SHOWN THEIR TRUE COLORS. LET'S FACE IT. KAUAI IS DOOMED. WITH A MAYOR THAT INSISTS ON DESECRATING SACRED BURIAL GROUNDS, A COUNCIL THAT CONTINUES TO SIDE WITH DEVELOPERS AND VACATION RENTAL OWNERS, AND A CORRUPT PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND COMMISSION, THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN WIN. I GIVE UP. I WISH THIS WASN'T TRUE BUT IT IS.
GIVE UP. I WISH THIS WASN'T TRUE BUT IT IS.
March 10, 2010 12:26 PM
Pathetic, inaccurate interpretation of the occurance of events. poor you.
The show will be educational, no doubt.
But, always one sided. People complain about Fox News not being "fair and balanced" well, so is this show. Where's the alternative views?
ps: Fox news suks
Folks with all views are welcome to call in. But since those who dismiss and denigrate Hawaiian cultural concerns tend to express those views anonymously, it's hard to line them up as on-air guests.
Can you get Carlos Andrade to call in?
Pathetic, inaccurate interpretation of the occurance of events. poor you.
March 10, 2010 12:45 PM
You must work for the Mayor, be on the Council, or the Planning Commission. Poor you!
My spirit gets so downhearted sometimes . . .
wow. comment deletion is noted as a means of avoiding the substance of a given point of view, and it is deleted? no irony there..
plus, "anonymous" is good. nobody can attack your equipment, tractor, chattels, etc (now expanded from just physical assaults)
dwps
Speaking of ironic, how can someone who eats meat complain about humans practicing dominion (whatever that might mean) over animals? It's the height of hypocrisy for someone who is angry over our lack of humility in putting up power lines and artificial lights that cause the deaths of some birds to turn around and eat an animal! Shame.
I may have to lend my name to some posters on a case-by-case basis around here...
WRT the first post: on one hands seems serious in tone, on the other hand troll-ish... without any follow-up.
JOan said: "Folks with all views are welcome to call in. But since those who dismiss and denigrate Hawaiian cultural concerns tend to express those views anonymously, it's hard to line them up as on-air guests."
I think the point of the Anon comment was to get BOTH sides on the radio to discuss/debate at the same time. The kumu will be there today, how about adding T. Noyes? Native Hawaiian Legal is there to talk about Brescia, why not have Brescia's guy there to talk too? A "community" means everyone, not just those opinions one wants to hear. And, I think the community would learn more thru good old debate.
But since those who dismiss and denigrate Hawaiian cultural concerns tend to express those views anonymously, it's hard to line them up as on-air guests.
first of all, not everyone who disagrees with Kehaulani or Joan about proper dealings with development and cultural impact "dismiss and denigrate Hawaiian culture." (But that is a typical attitude/technique to vilify those who disagree with you). Also, who are you kidding? I bet you didn't try at all to line up anyone who disagrees.
Well, if any of you guys had the talent or the courage to put your own views out there under your own name, you could do your own radio show and blog any way you wanted. But since you don't, well, you're reduced to anonymous whining. Pretty pathetic.
I agree, the whining is too much.
But, it would be more interesting to hear alterntaive viewpoints during the shows. Have other guests been invited and declined?
If both sides are represented, the shows looks less like propoganda toward one position exclusively.
why don't you listen to the show before you pass judgment?
"Well, if any of you guys had the talent or the courage to put your own views out there under your own name,"
-- dont make me/us laugh. there is just one guy here (also basically anonymous) that at least periodically takes a stab at offering counterpoints to contentions raised. im reminded of that one "identified" lady a while back...tons of long comments, most of which were ridiculous
identification does not equal quality commentary
part of the nice thing about the garden island comment section - unedited (save for profanity) and at least a few well reasoned views covering the bulk of the political spectrum. good retorts there are not too hard to find. 95% anonymous comments
but i like the argument that commentary without the "baggage of personality" (personal identification) is somehow "less" or without worth. nice a-la bush lawyer logic stretch
so if anybody needs to know a speakers name to help identify sound thinking and ideas...i dunno, good luck in life
dwps
"Well, if any of you guys had the talent or the courage to put your own views out there under your own name, you could do your own radio show and blog any way you wanted. But since you don't, well, you're reduced to anonymous whining. Pretty pathetic."
pretty pathetic is right. now i know why some bloggers have comment moderation and stuff. mahalo for the forum and look forward to listening to today's show.
You must work for the Mayor, be on the Council, or the Planning Commission. Poor you!
March 10, 2010 4:38 PM
No, just educated.
The principle of "the greatest good for the greatest number of people" dictates that buried skeletons that are special to a relative small number of living people can't prevent a highway from being built.
It's funny to hear the male guest use doctrines and analysis he obviously learned at a western university to discuss the native issues. His understanding seems to be as much through a western lens as any white persons.
so i make a note and find and tune into this show, listen to this show for about 25 min (4:30-5). this one lady calls in, in-line with guests, and given a long time (15 min or so?). then this other guy calls in, seems to talk about some things (language etc) not really "well received" and is clearly "moved along" after a couple / few min (but politely "moved along," granted). rofl. but better than fox news i guess
also, joan c. you have a nice voice. non-threatening tone for sure
dwps
The principle of "the greatest good for the greatest number of people" dictates that buried skeletons that are special to a relative small number of living people can't prevent a highway from being built.
How noble of them. And here I thought the reason why in every major metropolis in the United States, freeways are built through the poorest parts of town, was to achieve the greatest good for the smallest number of government and business elites.
Strip mining on ancestral Native American lands, or building roads to carry millionaires to their resorts on Hawaiian cemeteries, it's good to know that it's all in the name of the Greatest Good.
It's funny to hear the male guest use doctrines and analysis he obviously learned at a western university to discuss the native issues. His understanding seems to be as much through a western lens as any white persons.
Yep -- it's funny to hear these high-I.Q. natives not use pidgin.
What's really funny is some of 'em even have college degrees and -- hang onto your shorts -- the ability to consider and analyze conflicting social issues from multiple points of view, informed by the histories of multiple cultures.
I mean Sweet Jesus with a Bib, where will the weirdness end?
"I mean Sweet Jesus with a Bib, where will the weirdness end?"
Dawson, you rock! start a blog will ya, and we can appreciate more of your gems. precious, jus' precious. keep up the good work!
dAMN wEBLOG pESTs!
i wish you were "politely "moved along,""
---- irk
then this other guy calls in, seems to talk about some things (language etc) not really "well received" and is clearly "moved along" after a couple / few min (but politely "moved along," granted).
I know. That was pretty choice. When the guy started talking about Jesus I thought, OMG, they're going to hang up on him.
"When the guy started talking about Jesus I thought, OMG, they're going to hang up on him."
Yeah, so ironic that a hawaiian hater is a jesus lover.
"here I thought the reason why in every major metropolis in the United States, freeways are built through the poorest parts of town,"
-- oh pls. that cant be based on mass observation or an understanding of eminent domain financing etc
better of citing proposed nuclear waste transport routes, which i have seen (reminds one of funky gerrymandering)
dwps
Not that I'm religious, but what's wrong with Jesus? What's so funny 'bout peace love and understanding?
The Jesus guy wasn't a "Hawaiian hater." He was just disagreeing with the guy who claimed the missionaries purposefully messed up the Hawaiian language.
the guy has called in on other shows. he's a hawaiian hater, hawaiian disser, grade A asshole
Joan wrote: "Well, if any of you guys had the talent or the courage to put your own views out there under your own name, you could do your own radio show and blog any way you wanted. But since you don't, well, you're reduced to anonymous whining. Pretty pathetic."
Only partially true Joan. Yes anyone can do a blog, but not anyone can do a radio show (at least not on KKCR). Who gets to do a show and who does not is a far from transparent process and is not determined by talent nor courage as far as I can tell.
As far a s courage, ""Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour; a long habit of not thinking a thing WRONG, gives it a superficial appearance of being RIGHT, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom. But the tumult soon subsides. Time makes more converts than reason."
-- Thomas Paine, from the introduction to "Common Sense."
I for one would be hard pressed to assert Paine lacked courage.
Yes Common sense and the Federalist papers were anonymous showing the cowardice of your "Founding Fathers." IMHO they should have been tried for treason, but I'm British.
I understand that some people have legitimate reasons for not wanting to use their names, which is why I allow anonymous comments.
However, I'm not so tolerant of those who, under cover of anonymity, just want to ding me or tell me how I should be doing my own projects.
And the actions of the Founding Fathers aside, I do believe it requires some courage to put one's views out there on a small island, and some talent to build a following of either a radio show or blog.
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